From moriah at preferred.com Fri Nov 2 15:52:33 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:52:33 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 117 MM/WGs -- re mail and IMP^o^s Message-ID: <008d01c163da$164dc3a0$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 117 Requests to Monthly Meetings and Worship Groups regarding mail to SAYMA office ... ----------------------------------------------------- ... and recipients of IMP^o^ bulletins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (from the Administrative Assistant) <|> Dear f/Friends -- Current events being what they are, your attention to the items below would be a big support to the Administrative Assistant. <|> I'd like to reduce the amount of SAYMA mail coming to my personal address -- 165 Jackson St, Abingdon VA 24210 Some meetings have been sending minutes and newsletters to me at home because it was more convenient. As an alternative, I'm requesting one of the following -- -- minutes/newsletters can be sent by e-mail to AdminAsst at sayma.org -- minutes/newsletters can be discontinued; all I really need is names and contact info whenever your MM/WG has a new clerk, treasurer, SAYMA rep, or member of SAYMA Ministry & Nurture committee. This can be sent by e-mail or phone. AdminAsst at sayma.org 276-628-5852 (in-person Tue & Thu 5 - 7:30 pm) <|> I'm similarly trying to reduce the mail that comes home from SAYMA's PO Box. After much reflection, I'm presently not bringing any mail into the house, or handling mail if I can avoid it. While I have faith in medical treatments, I'm unwilling to take the (small) risk of (huge consequences) -- my aging rented bungalow (SAYMA's office) becoming a quarantined crime scene with a dubious prognosis for decontamination. <|> If you feel a need to mail an item, please call or e-mail first so we can see if there's an alternative. <|> It would be also be helpful to know which f/Friends have volunteered to bring to the attention of their MM/WG any IMP^o^ bulletins (like this one) posted on the SAYMA list-server. Since Sept 11, I've twice needed to distribute a message to all meeting clerks and worship group contacts. Such will be easier if I know which MM/WGs need a phone call or individual e-mail in lieu of the IMP^o^ bulletin. MM/WG name -- _______ IMP^o^ bulletin volunteer -- ______ <|> Thank you for your help. <|> Mary Calhoun, Administrative Assistant ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ 1stpost 11-2-01 ~~~~~~ _______________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org, or 540-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). Thank you! ^o^ ----------------------------------------------------- To receive IMP^o^ bulletins, subscribe to the free list server, sayma at kitenet.net. You can e-mail to sayma-request at kitenet.net, writing only the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail message. You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From nmwhitt at samford.edu Mon Nov 5 10:34:09 2001 From: nmwhitt at samford.edu (Nancy M. Whitt) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:34:09 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [saymaListserv] Joe Jenkins Message-ID: Fred: Thanks very much for your thoughtfulness. I called Betty Saturday morning. She has promised to send a picture (which Jim Flege requested a while ago) of her and Joe for our Meeting House. Betty is doing well. She is in a Methodist retirement home and is surrounded by good friends. Her son, Eric, lives near by. Joe had alzheimer's, but never lost his personality and did not become agitated. He told her, "I love you so much it hurts," and would ask weren't they married and, if so, why they couldn't go home together. Everybody in the place loved Joe. Their daughter, Melissa, is on an Aleutian Island, teaching in an Athabascan/Inuit village and could not make it to the States. They will scatter Joe's ashes in Tennessee in June. Connie and I are hoping to be there (Betty says we're cousins). Paul discovered Joe and Betty, and the three of them are the founders of the worship group. Joe probably did more than anyone to get us certified as a meeting. He had just retired and had been an organization person. Joe's was loveable--I looked on him as a father substitute, since he and Betty had daughters our age. And, as in any family, we could be frustrated with each other at times. But I always loved and admired him. He had been part of the meeting for several years before we learned that he had taken a stand against racism at Baptist Medical Centers long before BMC wanted African-American executives, and had been fired and blackballed from similar jobs because of his stance. Where we felt he should be so proud of his stance, he was humble about it, and didn't recover easily from the 'shame' of being let go. His pain influenced a lot of his relationships with us in the Meeting. It was hard for a man of his generation not to be the breadwinner and to be without a career. He had worked successfully for Mason-Dixon Trucking for 28 years before coming to Birmingham. Betty was a cracker-jack real estate sales woman (I know this personally--she sold my unsellable Woodland Village Condo without my taking a loss). She was a million-dollar club saleswoman at times. Joe was a Boy Scout, an Indian artifact collector, a gardener, a builder, a former Furman football player and a doting father and grandfather. He was also a good story-teller. Vassilka loved his boyhood story about being scared of the wildcat and asked him to tell it over and over. Connie and I became card-carrying Friends in the Jenkins' house with the Jenkins on our respective clearness committees. We had Thanksgiving dinners with them, and they came to my Christmas Eve gatherings. It was a sad day for us when their daughters came to town and swooped them away. Connie and I felt loved by them, and they felt loved by us. We were amused when Betty would marvel and how we managed our lives (often when we were least in control of anything). Betty has always been one to love unconditionally. Plus she has a wonderful since of humor and sense of fun. Being in her kitchen, or in her living room was to be at home. Betty's address is: Kimball Hall, Room 403 805 W. Middle Street Chelsea, MI 48118 Phone: 734-475-3243 Please hold her in the Light. Love, Nancy On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:19:16 -0600 Fred Smith wrote: > I noticed in today's (Saturdays') paper, an obituary for Joe Jenkins. > Please forward to the meeting. > > > > ----------------------------------------- Nancy M. Whitt Professor of English Chair, Department of English Samford University Birmingham, AL 35229 Phone: 205-726-2458 Fax: 205-726-2112 E-mail: nmwhitt at samford.edu "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)" Walt Whitman From bright_crow at mindspring.com Thu Nov 8 12:32:09 2001 From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (Michael Austin Shell) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 11:32:09 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] FWD: Draft of Letter to the Editor re Sept. 11th Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20011108113209.007aa440@pop.mindspring.com> Dear Friends, I am forwarding an email which I have sent to Jacksonville (FL) Monthly Meeting, proposing a letter to the editor. I wanted to share this proposed draft (and my rationale for its wording) as widely as possible, in the hopes that it might help other F/friends to craft their own public statements. Blessed Be, Michael. <><><><><><>Forwarded Message<><><><><><><> Dear Friends, What follows below is my proposed draft for a letter to the editor from Jacksonville Monthly Meeting regarding September 11th and the current "war" in Afghanistan. I wanted to accomplish several things in the writing of this letter: -- keep it very simple and direct -- name the killings as killings, rather than echoing the rhetoric of "terrorism" or "acts of war" -- sidestep arguments about political or strategic issues, as well as about the false dichotomies of "innocent" vs. "guilty" victims or of "military" vs. "civilian" targets -- begin with an affirmation of core Quaker values -- affirm that those who choose violent defense may be acting "according to that measure of the Light which they have received" -- focus on the matter of "response to danger" rather than the matter of "retribution" or "punishment" -- emphasize the lessons of history which led the first Quakers to embrace the Peace Testimony -- be brief yet explicit in naming and rejecting the wrong which is being done by the United States -- end with a positively voiced query to our fellow citizens. I hope this draft will be useful in our discussion during Meeting for Worship for Business this coming First Day. Blessed Be, Michael. <><><><><><><><><><><><><> As we share the world's grief over the killings of September 11th, we Quakers turn for guidance to the core principle of our moral understanding: that all lives-- without exception-- are of equal value to God. We understand that people of good conscience may choose violent responses to danger when they see no other options readily available. Nonetheless, we remain convinced by history and by our own moral leadings that such choices arise from our failure to search with enough determination for nonviolent methods of preventing or resolving human conflict. In response to danger, our nation is now killing thousands and driving millions into an exile of increased poverty, disease and starvation. We wholly oppose this policy of war. We urge our fellow citizens to ask themselves: How might we lift up and bless those lives as equal to our own, using all of the resources and generosity and good will which are the better part of the American way of life. [signed by the Clerk, Jacksonville Monthly Meeting, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)] From moriah at preferred.com Thu Nov 15 17:35:09 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:35:09 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 124 Rep Mtg ...mailbox near you! Message-ID: <01b101c16e20$a24c4200$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 124 Coming to a mailbox near you! Rep Meeting registration packets for -- ........................................................... -- Dec 1st, hosted by West Knoxville FM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <|> Registration packets for Winter Rep Meeting (Saturday, December 1, 2001, 10:00 am Eastern), hosted by West Knoxville Friends Meeting, have been mailed to the f/Friends listed below. Anyone can participate in Representative Meetings; those attending represent the Yearly Meeting. Each meeting is encouraged to send someone. <|> The deadline to register is November 22; you may register by mail, phone or e-mail. The person to register with is: <|> Jomo McDermott 214 Agnes Rd, Knoxville TN 37919 865-558-9628 macdermott at mindspring.com <|> Please see IMP^o^ 125 to find out what information to supply by e-mail in order to register. <|> You'll need to lay hands on the rest of the packet even if you register by e-mail (it contains directions, map, agenda, and other important information). If you aren't on the list below, please contact -- -- one of the other people listed (4 people can register on one form), or ... -- the SAYMA office 276-628-5852, AdminAsst at sayma.org <|> If you should have been among the names below, and aren't, please let the SAYMA office know. Packets have been sent to f/Friends recorded in the office as -- -- clerks/contacts of their meetings/worship groups -- SAYMA representatives -- clerks of SAYMA committees -- members of SAYMA Ministry & Nurture and Yearly Meeting Planning Committees -- SAYMA Clerks and Treasurer -- SAF editors and SAYMA historian -- members of SAYMA Finance and Personnel Committees <|> If you're named below and don't need to be, please let the office know that too! <|> Mailed to, in meeting order... Michael Allison . . . . . . . . . . Anneewakee Creek Janet Minshall . . . . . . . . . . Anneewakee Creek Free Polazzo . . . . . . . . . . Anneewakee Creek Peter Buck . . . . . . . . . . Asheville Margaret Farmer . . . . . . . . . . Asheville Harold Hogstrom . . . . . . . . . . Asheville Valerie Hogstrom . . . . . . . . . . Asheville Jeannette Reid . . . . . . . . . . Asheville Jason Lang . . . . . . . . . . Athens Janice Pulliam . . . . . . . . . . Athens Valerie Barlow . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Kathy Burke . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Mary Ann Downey . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Beth Ensign . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Priscilla Ewen . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta 'Dolph Goldenburg . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Carol Gray . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Bill Holland . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Kathy Johnson . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Tom McGuigan . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Karen terHorst Morris . . . . . . . . . . Atlanta Tom Brawner . . . . . . . . . . Auburn Pat Acevedo Boggs . . . . . . . . . . Berea Dave Harmon . . . . . . . . . . Berea Therese Hildebrand . . . . . . . . . . Berea Carol Lamm . . . . . . . . . . Berea Tim Lamm . . . . . . . . . . Berea Peter Reilly . . . . . . . . . . Berea Paul Franklin . . . . . . . . . . Birmingham Connie LaMonte . . . . . . . . . . Birmingham Judy Prince . . . . . . . . . . Birmingham John Geary . . . . . . . . . . Boone Michael Harless . . . . . . . . . . Boone Steve Meredith . . . . . . . . . . Bowling Green Bob French . . . . . . . . . . Brevard Jane Goldthwait . . . . . . . . . . Celo Joyce Johnson . . . . . . . . . . Celo Bob McGahey . . . . . . . . . . Celo Rachel Weir . . . . . . . . . . Celo Steve Mininger . . . . . . . . . . Charleston Nancy Beecher . . . . . . . . . . Chattanooga Larry Ingle . . . . . . . . . . Chattanooga Becky Ingle . . . . . . . . . . Chattanooga Cindy McAfee . . . . . . . . . . Chattanooga Bill Reynolds . . . . . . . . . . Chattanooga Peggy Bonnington . . . . . . . . . . Clarksville Martha Ingel . . . . . . . . . . Clemson John Spraker . . . . . . . . . . Cleveland Stan Spraker . . . . . . . . . . Cleveland Robbin Jones . . . . . . . . . . Columbia Sallie Prugh . . . . . . . . . . Columbia Julia Sibley . . . . . . . . . . Columbia Diana Lalani . . . . . . . . . . Cookeville Gladys Draudt . . . . . . . . . . Crossville Dennis Gregg . . . . . . . . . . Crossville Mary Calhoun . . . . . . . . . . Foxfire Beth Keiter . . . . . . . . . . Foxfire Edith Patrick . . . . . . . . . . Foxfire Christopher Berg . . . . . . . . . . Greenville Matt Harmon . . . . . . . . . . Greenville Judy Guerry . . . . . . . . . . Huntsville Ron McDonald . . . . . . . . . . Memphis Susan Penn . . . . . . . . . . Memphis Wib Smith . . . . . . . . . . Murfreesboro Pam Beziat . . . . . . . . . . Nashville Thais Carr . . . . . . . . . . Nashville Dick Houghton . . . . . . . . . . Nashville Kit Potter . . . . . . . . . . Nashville Penelope Wright . . . . . . . . . . Nashville Susan Carlyle . . . . . . . . . . New Moon Kim Carlyle . . . . . . . . . . New Moon Daryl Bergquist . . . . . . . . . . Royal Jane Price . . . . . . . . . . Sevier County Lyn Hutchinson . . . . . . . . . . Sewanee Suzanne Gernandt . . . . . . . . . . Swannanoa Valley John Gernandt . . . . . . . . . . Swannanoa Valley Bob Welsh . . . . . . . . . . Swannanoa Valley Bettina Wolff . . . . . . . . . . Swannanoa Valley Tom Baugh . . . . . . . . . . Wayfarer's Meeting Sharon Annis . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Lee Hoefer . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Kendall Ivie . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Missy Ivie . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Jomo MacDermott . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Turtle MacDermott . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Kathleen Mavournin . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville Lee Ann Swarm . . . . . . . . . . West Knoxville ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ postdate 111501 ~~~~~~ _____________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org, or 276-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). 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You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From moriah at preferred.com Thu Nov 15 17:54:53 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:54:53 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 125 Rep Meeting "e-registration" Message-ID: <01b201c16e20$a4963200$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 125 Information needed to register electronically for Winter Rep Meeting ... ............................................................... but you still need to see a registration packet! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <|> You may register by phone or e-mail for the Winter Rep Meeting scheduled for December 1st in Knoxville TN. (Main session: 10:00 am Eastern time) <|> Registration deadline is November 22. Everyone coming must be registered. The person to register with is: <|> Jomo MacDermott -- 865-558-9628, macdermott at mindspring.com <|> You will need to lay hands on a registration packet even if you register by e-mail or phone; it contains maps, directions, agenda, and other important information. <|> If you need to see a packet, please -- -- check IMP^o^ 124, to see if one was mailed to you, or ... -- contact a person who was listed, or ... -- contact your meeting clerk, or ... -- contact the SAYMA office at 276-628-5852, AdminAsst at sayma.org <|> Meanwhile, IMP^o^ bulletin 125 will give you partial information. <|> Info needed for Rep Meeting registration: 1. If you need childcare please notify Lee Hoefer (865-693-1529) right away. Childcare is very limited. 2. Your name and address 3. Purpose for attending: (a) Rep Meeting, M&N, Yearly Mtg Planning, other (b) child; please give name(s), age(s) and special needs of child(ren) requiring care. 4. Year your term ends (of the appointment that brings you to Rep Meeting) 5. Meeting or Worship Group name 6. Your contact info: area code + phone number (& e-mail address if you have one). If giving both, please indicate the preferred means of communication 7. Hospitality needed (place to sleep & light breakfast provided by local f/Friend): (a) Please indicate people who can share a room... (b) ...& those who can share a bed. (c) Friday night for (#) ____ people. Expected time of arrival (Eastern): ______ (d) Saturday night for (#) ____ people. Expected time of arrival (Eastern): ____ (e) Please say who is arriving when, if the folks above are not all traveling together. (f) Any special needs? (Vegetarian, vegan, special diet, house without stairs, hills, wood smoke, pets, or a child-proof house, etc. ...?) 8. If you ask for hospitality, and your request hasn't been acknowledged by Nov 27, please contact Lee Hoefer (865-693-1529) if you want reassurance! 9. Cancellation: after registering, if you are unable to attend for any reason, please notify Jomo MacDermott as soon as possible at 865-558-9628, macdermott at mindspring.com. ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ postdate 111501~~~~~~ ________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org, or 276-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). Thank you! ^o^ ----------------------------------------------------- To receive IMP^o^ bulletins, subscribe to the free list server, sayma at kitenet.net. You can e-mail to sayma-request at kitenet.net, writing only the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail message. You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From jhminshall at mindspring.com Sat Nov 17 15:19:57 2001 From: jhminshall at mindspring.com (Janet Minshall) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:19:57 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Writing History to Executive Order Message-ID: Thought folks in SAYMA might be interested in this article from NYTimes.com. JM Writing History to Executive Order November 16, 2001 By RICHARD REEVES WASHINGTON -- With a stroke of the pen on Nov. 1, President Bush stabbed history in the back and blocked Americans' right to know how presidents (and vice presidents) have made decisions. Executive Order 13223 ended more than 30 years of increasing openness in government. From now on, scholars, journalists and any other citizens will have to show a demonstrated, specific "need to know" in requesting documents from the Reagan, Clinton and two Bush presidencies - and all others to come. And if someone asks to see records never made public during a presidency but deposited in the National Archives by a former president, the requester will now have to receive the permission of both the former president and the current one. My response was to send President Bush a couple of books on recent presidencies, along with a note saying they might become valuable artifacts because his order could prevent writers from doing similar research without approval from two presidents. I also attached a letter from his father to me explaining how important it is to document presidential decision-making. Archival research is grinding work. It takes years of perseverance to follow the paper trail documenting how the nation goes to war or raises taxes, or how presidents choose their staffs. But the search becomes worthwhile when you see John F. Kennedy's initials on a memo talking of the possibility of a Berlin wall weeks before the Communists put it up, or when you find Richard Nixon asking Henry Kissinger, in a note, "Is it possible we were wrong from the start in Vietnam?" There are rules upon rules about which presidential papers become available and when - and some of them defy all reason. For more than 25 years, an inscription by the Irish writer Brendan Behan to President Kennedy was withheld from researchers by the National Archives and Records Administration, apparently because it was written on a copy of Evergreen Review, a literary magazine considered racy in those days. But the complicated rules have been changing in the direction of more access since the Freedom of Information Act became law on July 4, 1966. From 1981, when the Presidential Records Act went into effect, until Mr. Bush issued his order, a citizen could request to review some presidential papers five years after the end of a presidency, or ask for all but the most sensitive records after 12 years. Ronald Reagan's records were the first to become available under the 12-year rule - except that they did not become available, because the Bush administration chose to review the policy for the past nine months. That review resulted in the recent order. The White House reassured me that you can still go to court if an administration denies you access to archived information. Right. If you have years and tens of thousands of dollars to spare to take your case to the federal courts. The White House argues that premature disclosure of decision memos and the like could stifle dialogue among presidential advisers. But this has been true for years, and the republic has managed to survive. The administration's second reason - to make the process more "orderly" - is simply ludicrous. It is hard to see how double presidential oversight will speed things up, unless the idea is to just say no. And I think that is the idea. There may be Reagan-era records that could be embarrassing to some men and women now back in power with the second Bush administration. Perhaps even more pertinent, they may not want to spend their retirements, 12 years after George W. Bush leaves office, defending the wartime decisions they are making now. Richard Reeves is author of "President Kennedy: Profile of Power" and "President Nixon: Alone in the White House." http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/16/opinion/16REEV.html?ex=1007029324&ei=1&en=39178ae8d4890308 From kcarlyle at juno.com Mon Nov 19 12:13:51 2001 From: kcarlyle at juno.com (Kim Carlyle) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:13:51 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Southern Appalachian Friend Message-ID: <20011119.111352.-4011223.11.kcarlyle@juno.com> Reminder: The due date for submissions is 11/23. The theme is our Peace Testimony. Please send articles, opinions, announcements, poetry, whatever, to SAFeditor at SAYMA.org Consider these queries: What were the seeds of the "War on Terrorism?" What can we do to take away the occasion of the next such "war?" ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From moriah at preferred.com Tue Nov 20 23:47:52 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:47:52 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 123 Adverts on List-Server Message-ID: <009801c17241$85972380$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 123 Advertisements on SAYMA list-server felt to be unf/Friendly --------------------------------------------- "Prevention" filter put in place ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (from the Administrative Assistant) <|> One SAYMA f/Friend has written to the office about -- and others may have noticed -- a spate of advertising messages posted to our list-server (sayma at kitenet.net). The writer thought them inappropriate. <|> The list-server administrator has been dealing with -- unseen by readers -- a series of would-be postings from "hahahasexyfun." These and other spam ("junk mail" postings) cause extra work; they put up a red flag to the list-administrator, who must go see who's knocking and reject their message. <|> The list's host/owner has said there's an option to prevent these unwanted postings -- the list-server software can be told to allow postings only by people who are subscribed to the list. (This restriction was in place on the "old" list-server software, prior to April 2000. Apparently most spammers don't subscribe to the lists they annoy.) <|> The list-administrator has therefore turned on this "prevention filter." Beginning now, f/Friends will need to be subscribed to sayma at kitenet.net before they can post a message to it. <|> Instructions for subscribing, as usual, are at the end of this bulletin. ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ 1stpost 112001 ~~~~~~ _______________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org, or call 276-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). Thank you! ^o^ ----------------------------------------------------- To receive IMP^o^ bulletins, subscribe to the free list server, sayma at kitenet.net. You can e-mail to sayma-request at kitenet.net, writing only the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail message. You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From freepolazzo at mindspring.com Wed Nov 21 09:14:36 2001 From: freepolazzo at mindspring.com (Free Polazzo) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:14:36 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Reply from Congressman Bob Barr (R-GA) to Dept of Peace Bill Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011121075934.0378ae78@127.0.0.1> Hi, I subscribe to a service where I get to send e mail letters to my elected officials on various issues. Usually, e mails get an "automated" reply. Bob Barr (or his office) actually answered my e mail about supporting the establishment of a Department of Peace. His response is remarkably clear and revealing. Note his sentence " . . especially while we are engaged in armed conflict with the world." One doesn't often get this much truth in government! I just wish it was a different response. Justpeace Free Polazzo, Anneewakee Creek Friends Worship Group Douglasville, GA "In times of change, learners inherit the world, while the learned remain beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" (Philosopher and author Eric Hoffer) Donate free food with a simple click: http://www.thehungersite.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: >To: >Subject: Reply from Congressman Bob Barr >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:01:46 -0500 > >Thank you for contacting me regarding the establishment of a "Department >of Peace." > >On July 11, 2001, Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced H.R. 2459, to >establish a Department of Peace. The legislation has been referred to the >House Committees on Government Reform, International Relations, the >Judiciary, and Education and the Workforce. No further action has been >taken at this time. > >I think this is a nonsensical proposal, especially while we are engaged in >armed conflict with the world. I support our President, our military, and >our Department of Defense. We do not need a "Department of Peace." > >Again, thank you for contacting me. Your thoughts and comments are >sincerely appreciated. > >With kind regards, I am, > >very truly yours, >BOB BARR >Member of Congress PS: The letter writing service I refer to (above) is manage by a Quaker (Jim Harris) who lives in California. A sample of topics written about are listed below. Note that I get a letter with an option to NOT send it or TO send for each topic. Progressive Secretary just does the "work" of writing and then forwarding the email to "my" politicians. U.S. Stop Aiding Colombia Human Rights Violators dated 8/08/01 Defeat Unfair "Rent-to-Own" Bill dated 7/26/01 Stop Navy's LFA Sonar dated 7/26/01 Free Five Cuban Political Prisoners! dated 7/22/01 Hold Ashcroft Responsible for Ethics Violation dated 7/15/01 EPA Deny Starlink Corn as Human Food dated 7/15/01 Bad prison health care costs taxpayers millions! dated 7/14/01 Senate Stop Kuhl Judicial Appointment dated 7/13/01 Fund EPA Endocrine Disruptor Studies dated 7/08/01 Congress Pass Bridges to Cuban People Act dated 7/06/01 Ban Employment Discrimination dated 7/05/01 Stop Oil Drilling in Pakistan Parks dated 7/05/01 Make Your Voice Heard. Enroll in http://www.ProgressiveSecretary.Org. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moriah at preferred.com Wed Nov 21 18:18:30 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:18:30 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 127 YM '02 wkshop form Message-ID: <047c01c172f4$f3f52300$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 127 Workshop Proposal Form for Yearly Meeting 2002 --------------------------------------------- Please submit by Feb 15, 2002 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (from a 11-11-01 message from Penelope Wright on behalf of Pam Beziat, YM Workshop Coordinator, and Mary Ann Downey, YM Planning Co-Clerk) <|> WORKSHOP PROPOSAL FORM (Please turn page if you need more room) <|> Southern Appalachian Yearly Meeting June 20 - 23, 2002 Warren Wilson College, Swannanoa NC <|> Theme: "Turning We Come Round Right" <|> Title of proposed workshop: <|> Your name and address, including phone number and e-mail if applicable: <|> What led you to offer this workshop? <|> Tell us about your experience in leading workshops: <|> Give us a brief (approximately 50-word) description of your workshop. (This information will be used to describe your workshop in the advance program to help Friends in selecting a workshop.) <|> Please help us in our planning by completing the following questions about your workshop: -- Workshop sessions will be 2 hours. Please specify whether you will be offering one or two 2-hour sessions. (Be aware that you may have different people in each session.) -- Will it be didactic? Will it be interactive? -- Participants: Adults Youth Adults & Youth Men Women Both -- Are there size limits? Maximum? Minimum? -- Do you have particular requirements for your workshop? Equipment? Location? <|> We will need a letter of support or endorsement from someone who is familiar with your workshop experience. <|> Please return by February 15, 2002, to: Pam Beziat 1827 Morena Street, Nashville TN 37208 615-341-0255 p_beziat at hotmail.com (Note underscore between p & beziat) ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ 1stpost 112101 ~~~~~~ _______________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org or call 276-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). Thank you! ^o^ ----------------------------------------------------- To receive IMP^o^ bulletins, subscribe to the free list server, sayma at kitenet.net. You can e-mail to sayma-request at kitenet.net, writing only the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail message. You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From moriah at preferred.com Wed Nov 21 19:36:26 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:36:26 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 128 MM/WG mail-list change Message-ID: <047d01c172f4$f5fd7620$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 128 Meetings & Worship Groups please change SAYMA M&N name on mail-lists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ delete Ernest Lee ... add Kit Potter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (requested 9-8-01 by Kit Potter, SAYMA M&N Committee recording clerk) <|> Monthly Meetings and Worship Groups which send out minutes and/or newsletters are asked to delete Ernest Lee (West Knoxville) from their mail-lists. He was formerly a co-clerk of SAYMA's M&N Committee. <|> Please add to minutes/newsletter mail-lists the new Recording Clerk of M&N: Kit Potter 848 Clematis Dr Nashville, TN 37205 kitpotter1 at aol.com <|> Thank you. ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ 1stpost 112101 ~~~~~~ _______________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... "Information Made Present" is a bulletin service of the SAYMA office to provide practical details to our geographically-challenged Yearly Meeting via our free list-server: semi-official information, bulletins that you can print, post, announce, publish, or pass around. Please address questions, corrections and additions to AdminAsst at sayma.org or call 276-628-5852 (machine; in-person Tu/Th 5-7:30p). Thank you! ^o^ ----------------------------------------------------- To receive IMP^o^ bulletins, subscribe to the free list server, sayma at kitenet.net. You can e-mail to sayma-request at kitenet.net, writing only the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail message. You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From moriah at preferred.com Wed Nov 21 20:47:32 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:47:32 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 129 Death Penalty History Message-ID: <047e01c172f4$f8476620$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 129 Historical Record of Death Penalty Work... ...requested from meetings ------------------------------------------------------------ Please send reports by Feb 15, 2002 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (requested by Rep Meeting 100, 9-8-01, Minute 8) <|> Friends agreed to ask meetings to report on their work on the death penalty by February 15, 2002. <|> Meetings should send their reports to: <|> Carol Lamm, Recording Clerk 902 Slate Lick Rd Berea, KY 40403 <|> and to: <|> Mary Calhoun, Admin Asst PO Box 2191 Abingdon, VA 24212-2191 <|> The Administrative Assistant will distribute this information in the registration packets for Spring Rep Meeting, which is scheduled for April 6, 2002. ~~~~~~ end ^o^ ~~~~~~ 1stpost 112101 ~~~~~~ _______________________________________ IMP ^o^ ... 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You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From moriah at preferred.com Wed Nov 21 21:56:23 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:56:23 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] IMP^o^ 126 Office\Rep Mtg Message-ID: <051301c172f8$f8a7ffe0$0500a8c0@oem> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMP ^o^ Bulletin 126 SAYMA office closing for Winter Rep Meeting -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nov 30 through Dec 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <|> The SAYMA office will be temporarily closed Nov 30 through Dec 3 while the Administrative Assistant goes to Winter Representative Meeting in Knoxville, TN. <|> The answering machine will be on, and incoming e-mail will await pickup. <|> Non-urgent messages would be best held until after Dec 3, so that space in the electronic mailboxes remains for those who have limited chances to call or e-mail. <|> Thank you! ~~~~~~~end ^o^ ~~~~~~1stpost 112101~~~~~~ _____________________________ IMP ^o^ ... 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You can also subscribe on the web at http://kitenet.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sayma. ------------------------------------------------------ From bright_crow at mindspring.com Thu Nov 22 11:42:06 2001 From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (Michael Austin Shell) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:42:06 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Jacksonville (FL) Friends Meeting: Letter to the Editor re September 11th Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20011122104206.007b35f0@pop.mindspring.com> Friends, Here is the final version of the letter to the editor which Jacksonville Friends Meeting will be sending to our local paper, the FLORIDA TIMES-UNION. Share it as you see fit. I apologize for any cross-postings. Blessed Be, Michael. <><><><><><><><><><><><><> November 21, 2001 Dear Editor: As we share the world's horror and grief over the killings of September 11th, we of Jacksonville Friends (Quaker) Meeting turn for guidance to the core principle of our moral understanding: that all lives-- without exception-- are of equal value to God. We acknowledge the profound human longing for decisive responses to these killings, both to right the wrongs and to restore to all of us a sense of safety. We understand, further, that people of good conscience may choose violent responses to danger when they see no other options readily available. Nevertheless, we remain convinced by history and by our own moral struggles that such violent choices arise from our failure to search with enough determination for nonviolent methods of preventing and resolving human conflict. Violent methods explicitly value some lives over others. They do not heal the hurt and fear and anger which leads to violence. They do not create safety, only the threat of more violence. Our nation is leading military actions which will kill thousands and cause devastation, increasing poverty, disease and starvation. We wholly oppose this violence. Instead, we call for our nation and others to address the deep and conflicted human needs which lead to international violence. We urge our fellow citizens to ask themselves: How might we lift up and bless these other lives as equal to our own, using all of the resources and generosity and good will which are the better part of the American way of life? From moriah at preferred.com Tue Nov 27 15:12:47 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:12:47 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Fw: FGC Book List related to September 11th Message-ID: <000201c17777$b6f04de0$0500a8c0@oem> Forwarded from the SAYMA office. ^o^ Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Lucy Duncan Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Book List related to September 11th Dear Friends, FGC has compiled a list of print resources that relate to September 11th and peace witness. We've posted it on our website so that folks can order via our secure website. You can reach the list at the web address below: http://www.quakerbooks.org/friendswitness Feel free to link to the list if you like or use it as a resource for yourselves. I received quite a bit of help and advice from a number of Friends and I think the books listed are very good. We also have a hard printed version if you'd like copies. This list will serve as a basis for our January bookstore supplemental catalog which ships with an issue of Connections focused on Friends responses. Thanks for all of your faithful work since September 11th. In Peace & Friendship, Lucy Lucy Duncan Bookstore Manager Friends General Conference 1216 Arch St., Ste 2B Philadelphia, PA 19107 215-561-1700 fax 215-561-0759 lucyd at fgcquaker.org From moriah at preferred.com Thu Nov 29 13:07:55 2001 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:07:55 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] Worm arriving at YM office... Message-ID: <009901c178f8$78006980$0500a8c0@oem> Dear Friends, A newly-identified piece of malicious software (a worm) was intercepted in e-mails to the office 3 times in the last 2 days from f/Friends within 3 different meetings in SAYMA. The worm e-mails itself, thereby taking advantage of the fact that a lot of us have each other's e-mail addresses. Following are excerpts from a posting by Symantec, the Norton AntiVirus company. To read the entire article, go to http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/vURL.cgi/nav108 The worm is rated threat level 4 (max is 5). If you're running antivirus software, it would be prudent to make sure you've updated its virus definitions. If you're not running AV software, you might want to consider doing so! ^o^ Mary --------------------------------------------------------- Symantec Security Response http://securityresponse.symantec.com W32.Badtrans.B at mm Discovered on: November 24, 2001 Last Updated on: November 27, 2001 at 10:49:03 PM ZE8 Due to the increased rate of submissions, Symantec Security Response has upgraded the threat level of this worm from level 3 to level 4 as of November 26, 2001. W32.Badtrans.B at mm is a MAPI worm that emails itself out using different file names. Threat Assessment: Wild: High Number of infections: More than 1000 Number of sites: 3 - 9 Geographical distribution: Low Threat containment: Easy Removal: Easy Damage: Low Payload: Large scale e-mailing: Uses MAPI commands to send email. Compromises security settings: Installs keystroke logging Trojan horse. Distribution: High Name of attachment: randomly chosen from preset list Size of attachment: 29,020 bytes Technical description: This worm arrives as an email with one of several attachment names and a combination of two appended extensions In all cases, MAPI will be used to find unread mail to which the worm will reply. The subject will be "Re:". In all cases, the worm will append two extensions. The first will be one of the following: .doc .mp3 .zip The second extension that is appended to the file name is one of the following: .pif .scr The resulting file name would look similar to CARD.Doc.pif or NEWS_DOC.mp3.scr. If SMTP information can be found on the computer, then it will be used for the From: field. Otherwise, the From: field will be one of these: "Mary L. Adams" "Monika Prado" "Support" " Admin" " Administrator" "JESSICA BENAVIDES" "Joanna" "Mon S" "Linda" " Andy" "Kelly Andersen" "Tina" "Rita Tulliani" "JUDY" " Anna" Email messages use the malformed MIME exploit to allow the attachment to execute [to open] in Microsoft Outlook without prompting [without your permission]. For information on this, go to: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp Prevention: Home users should not open any email that has an attachment in which the second extension is .pif or .scr. Any email that has such an attachment should be deleted. -----------------------------------------------