From Vmbra at aol.com Tue Sep 3 20:25:30 2002 From: Vmbra at aol.com (Vmbra at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:25:30 EDT Subject: [saymaListserv] WV and SE Ohio Friends Gathering Sept. 28-29 Message-ID: <167.1349e3f6.2aa6acfa@aol.com> Monongalia Friends Meeting (Morgantown, WV) is organizing this year's WV and SE Ohio Friends Gathering, at Camp Hervida, northwest of Marietta Ohio. The gathering includes workshops on racism and the Middle East, the latter presented by Dick Whitham and Carlie Numi, who have recently returned from a Christian Peace Teams visit to the region. There will also be worship, singing, nature walks, and a chance for isolated (and not so isolated) Friends to renew acquaintanceship. Registration information from: Catherine Lozier Monongalia Friends Meeting 428 Van Gilder Morgantown, WV 26505 (304) 599-8233 clozier at labs.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hblack at twlakes.net Wed Sep 4 17:36:09 2002 From: hblack at twlakes.net (hector black) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:36:09 -0700 Subject: [saymaListserv] Fw: sheesh....even Quakers are targeted.... Message-ID: <007601c25460$44fb2ae0$62b390cf@oemcomputer> I thought the following would be of interest to you all. Peace, Hector ----- Original Message ----- From: rblack To: Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: FWD: sheesh....even Quakers are targeted.... > >===== Original Message From Dyana Bagby > ===== > Denver police open 'spy files' on peaceful groups, but some files will > remain secret > By JUDITH KOHLER > Associated Press Writer > DENVER (AP) - The Police Department opened 3,200 ''spy files'' on > religious, peace and other groups on Tuesday, and activists lined up to see > if their names were included. > City officials conceded that police went too far in collecting information > in some cases. > News that religious and peace groups were among those placed under > surveillance since about 1999, when the files were computerized, drew > charges of police misconduct, an investigation by a three-judge panel and > the decision to let some people see their files before the reports are > purged. > Mayor Wellington Webb, himself the subject of police surveillance when he > was a young activist, has condemned the keeping of files on peaceful > protesters and said it violated city policy. > Records of people not suspected of crimes will be released to those named > in them, then purged after Nov. 1. However, the city attorney's office will > keep copies of all files, including those eliminated by police. > The names of people or groups considered legitimate targets of > surveillance, as determined by an outside auditor, will remain in the files > and won't be released. > Officials haven't indicated whether any files from before 1999 will be > retained. > The partial release concerned some activists waiting in line. > ''They're not being totally upfront, which makes you think they're not > telling you everything,'' said Wendy Hawthorne of the Denver Justice and > Peace Committee. > Department of Safety spokeswoman C.L. Harmer said she was as horrified as > the department's critics when she learned that Nobel Peace Prize winners > Amnesty International and the American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker > organization, had been monitored. > Police had classified the Quaker committee as a criminal extremist group, > according to files obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union. Police > told the ACLU the department had no written guidelines for making such > classifications. > ''I'm a former member of the American Friends Service Committee,'' Harmer > said. ''My late husband was a Quaker.'' > Mark Silverstein, legal director of the Colorado chapter of the ACLU, said > his group never disputed the need for legitimate criminal intelligence > operations. > ''But legitimate criminal intelligence operations is not writing down > license numbers of everybody who attends an Amnesty International rally,'' > he said. > The ACLU is suing the city on behalf of the Denver Justice and Peace > Committee, which claims a police search of its office in 2000 was illegal. > A separate lawsuit challenges the police department's surveillance of > peaceful protest groups. > > Dyana Bagby > staff writer > The Gwinnett Daily Post > 770-963-9205 ext. 1303 > From Evdavwes at aol.com Sun Sep 8 09:07:48 2002 From: Evdavwes at aol.com (Evdavwes at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:07:48 EDT Subject: [saymaListserv] Asheville Meeting Retreat on John Woolman Message-ID: <183.dfc807e.2aaca5a4@aol.com> Dear Friends, Asheville (NC) Friends Meeting announces a retreat October 4 and 5: "John Woolman: Mysticism and Activism," led by Michael Birkel of the Earlham College Religion Department. This is open to anyone, whether Friends or not. Please let your Meetings know of this event. Those from out of town are invited to request housing from Asheville Meeting friends. A flyer in Microsoft Word Format is available on request from David Clements (evdavwes at aol.com). Payment of $25 or a request for a scholarship is required to hold a place. A registration form is below. Note that Michael will be leading a forum on the reading of Scripture on First Day following the retreat (October 6). The forum will be without charge and open to all. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% John Woolman: Mysticism and Activism John Woolman is attractive to both contemplatives and activists. He holds together what often gets divided among Friends. We will look at him as a model for the integrated spiritual life, and explore both the depths of his mystical experience and the commitments he made to a more just and peaceful society. * * * Schedule for the Retreat: October 4, 6-8:30 pm: Potluck and introductory session at the Meeting House October 5, 9:30 to 12 and 2 to 5: retreat location to be announced on October 4. Optional dinner with Michael Birkel at a local restaurant after the retreat. October 6: Michael will lead an after-Meeting forum on the worshipful reading of Scripture. * Attendance is limited to 40. We must receive your payment or a request for a scholarship in order to hold your place. * The fee for the retreat is $25, with scholarship assistance available. * Scholarships are also available for dinner with Michael Birkel on October 5. * Childcare will be provided if requested by September 20. * For childcare requests or other questions, call David Clements at (828) 285-0601. * * * * * Michael Birkel has taught in the Religion Department at Earlham College for the last sixteen years. His interests range from Biblical studies to Quakerism to comparative mysticism. He has just completed a book on John Woolman. He has been a speaker and retreat leader among Friends for over twenty years, ministering at various Yearly Meetings as well as Pendle Hill, the School of the Spirit, and Friends General Conference. He is an active member of Clear Creek Monthly Meeting of Ohio Valley Yearly Meeting. He and his wife, Gwen Halsted, a physician, enjoy music, hiking, and cooking together. They have two children. Anna Margaret, 15, loves fiction and playing the piano and the violin. Jonathan, 8, loves maps and dinosaurs. Reply form below: Please print out and return with payment ****************************************************************************** *************** Registration for the Asheville Friends Meeting retreat on October 4-5, 2002. Mail to David Clements, 79 Cumberland Avenue, Asheville, NC 28801 Call David Clements at (828) 285-0601 by September 20 with requests for childcare. Fees paid are not refundable unless cancellation is received by September 20. Name(s):______________________________________________________________ Address: ______________________________________________________________ Tel: __________________________ Email: _____________________________ ************************************************************************** Number attending ___________ times $25 fee equals??. $_________ Plus contribution for future programs and scholarships?? _________ Less scholarship requested???. _________ Total enclosed (checks payable to Asheville Friends Meeting)?? ...$_________ Please check ____ I/we would like scholarship assistance for dinner with Michael Birkel on October 5 Blessings and Peace, David Clements, for the Spiritual Enrichment Committee: Norma Buckingham, norma724 at charter.net, 296-0980 Margaret Farmer, farmers1066 at charter.net and sporos27 at yahoo.com, 298-5961 Margaret Normile, margaretnormile at peoplepc.com, 658-3307 Virginia Redfield (away until late September), vredfield at charter.net, 253-6726 David Clements, evdavwes at aol.com, 285-0601 Please let David Clements know if you desire not to receive emails regarding Asheville Friends Meeting events. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Evdavwes at aol.com Sun Sep 8 16:04:33 2002 From: Evdavwes at aol.com (Evdavwes at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:04:33 EDT Subject: [saymaListserv] Asheville Meeting Retreat on John Woolman Message-ID: <184.e02263c.2aad0751@aol.com> Dear Friends, Asheville (NC) Friends Meeting announces a retreat October 4 and 5: "John Woolman: Mysticism and Activism," led by Michael Birkel of the Earlham College Religion Department. This is open to anyone, whether Friends or not. Please let your Meetings know of this event. Those from out of town are invited to request housing from Asheville Meeting friends. A flyer in Microsoft Word Format is available on request from David Clements (evdavwes at aol.com). Payment of $25 or a request for a scholarship is required to hold a place. A registration form is below. Note that Michael will be leading a forum on the reading of Scripture on First Day following the retreat (October 6). The forum will be without charge and open to all. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% John Woolman: Mysticism and Activism John Woolman is attractive to both contemplatives and activists. He holds together what often gets divided among Friends. We will look at him as a model for the integrated spiritual life, and explore both the depths of his mystical experience and the commitments he made to a more just and peaceful society. * * * Schedule for the Retreat: October 4, 6-8:30 pm: Potluck and introductory session at the Meeting House October 5, 9:30 to 12 and 2 to 5: retreat location to be announced on October 4. Optional dinner with Michael Birkel at a local restaurant after the retreat. October 6: Michael will lead an after-Meeting forum on the worshipful reading of Scripture. * Attendance is limited to 40. We must receive your payment or a request for a scholarship in order to hold your place. * The fee for the retreat is $25, with scholarship assistance available. * Scholarships are also available for dinner with Michael Birkel on October 5. * Childcare will be provided if requested by September 20. * For childcare requests or other questions, call David Clements at (828) 285-0601. * * * * * Michael Birkel has taught in the Religion Department at Earlham College for the last sixteen years. His interests range from Biblical studies to Quakerism to comparative mysticism. He has just completed a book on John Woolman. He has been a speaker and retreat leader among Friends for over twenty years, ministering at various Yearly Meetings as well as Pendle Hill, the School of the Spirit, and Friends General Conference. He is an active member of Clear Creek Monthly Meeting of Ohio Valley Yearly Meeting. He and his wife, Gwen Halsted, a physician, enjoy music, hiking, and cooking together. They have two children. Anna Margaret, 15, loves fiction and playing the piano and the violin. Jonathan, 8, loves maps and dinosaurs. Reply form below: Please print out and return with payment ****************************************************************************** *************** Registration for the Asheville Friends Meeting retreat on October 4-5, 2002. Mail to David Clements, 79 Cumberland Avenue, Asheville, NC 28801 Call David Clements at (828) 285-0601 by September 20 with requests for childcare. Fees paid are not refundable unless cancellation is received by September 20. Name(s):______________________________________________________________ Address: ______________________________________________________________ Tel: __________________________ Email: _____________________________ ************************************************************************** Number attending ___________ times $25 fee equals??. $_________ Plus contribution for future programs and scholarships?? _________ Less scholarship requested???. _________ Total enclosed (checks payable to Asheville Friends Meeting)?? ...$_________ Please check ____ I/we would like scholarship assistance for dinner with Michael Birkel on October 5 Blessings and Peace, David Clements, for the Spiritual Enrichment Committee: Norma Buckingham, norma724 at charter.net, 296-0980 Margaret Farmer, farmers1066 at charter.net and sporos27 at yahoo.com, 298-5961 Margaret Normile, margaretnormile at peoplepc.com, 658-3307 Virginia Redfield (away until late September), vredfield at charter.net, 253-6726 David Clements, evdavwes at aol.com, 285-0601 Please let David Clements know if you desire not to receive emails regarding Asheville Friends Meeting events. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bright_crow at mindspring.com Tue Sep 10 22:45:25 2002 From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (Michael Austin Shell) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:45:25 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] Fwd: Voting Crisis in Miami-Dade Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910224508.009f8ac0@pop.mindspring.com> >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:53:20 -0600 >To: whitlock at bigsky.net >From: Kay Whitlock >Subject: Voting Crisis in Miami-Dade > >Friends, please take a moment to read this. This is extremely >serious. AFSC has actively participated in this historic gay rights >ballot contest, working closely with other partner organizations of the >National Religious Leadership Roundtable, Save Dade, and the National Gay >and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF). We prepared sermon talking points for >clergy in the Miami-Dade area, several AFSC representatives recently >participated in a faith rally and door-to-door canvassing effort in Miami, >and we met with Miami Friends on this matter. Several Friends joined in >the canvassing effort and attended the rally. Miami Friends Meeting has >posted updated information regularly on their website and sent electronic >bulletins to members. > >I note that I was present in 1977 at the first Miami-Dade ballot >initiative launched by the Christian right; I was chair of the national >lesbian rights task force for NOW and did public speaking and telephone >canvassing. Most of the speaking I did was in Jewish synagogues. In >1977, our greatest, in fact, our only clear "wins" were in precincts that >were heavily Jewish. As you know, we lost that vote. The stakes are very >high this time. > >I note that there is much more to be said about all of this. > >Stay tuned. AFSC may be speaking out on this soon. > >Kay Whitlock > >Tuesday, September 10, 2002 > >Ballot Debacle Again in Florida Election: NGLTF Demands Investigation into >Apparent Voter Fraud > >MEDIA CONTACT: >NGLTF Communications Department >ngltf at ngltf.org >202-332-6483 >Pager: 800-757-6476 > >MIAMI, FLORIDA - In today's Miami-Dade election that featured a historic >gay rights ballot measure, registered voters have once again been denied >the right to cast votes. Rampant breakdowns in new touch screen voting >machines, failure to open polling places in a timely manner, untrained >personnel, and refusal by election officials to provide paper >"provisional" ballots when voting machines have malfunctioned have left >voters and observers alike stunned and angered. > >Worst of all, numerous complaints have been registered by voters who went >to the polls to vote NO on the anti-gay ballot measure, but were prevented >from doing so. In some precincts, there was no ability to vote on any >initiatives. In others, voters have complained that when they voted NO on >the anti-gay ballot measure, YES votes appear to have registered instead. >Many polling places were not operative until after 1:00 pm, more than 5 >hours later than the scheduled 7:00 am. > >"In 2000, African Americans in southern Florida were denied the right to >vote and to have their votes counted. In 2002, the gay and Jewish >communities are facing the same inexcusable fate," said Lorri L. Jean, >Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. > >While irregularities have been reported in precincts countywide, Miami's >Jewish and gay communities have been disproportionately hit by voter >machine malfunction and other irregularities. These communities represent >some of the strongest opposition to a measure on the ballot that, if >passed, would remove discrimination protections based on sexual >orientation from the County's human rights ordinance. > >"How many times must historically oppressed communities be denied the >right to participate in elections under the watch of Jeb and George W. >Bush?" demanded Jean. "Hundreds and potentially thousands of people in >Miami-Dade have been unable to vote today because of malfunctioning >machines and then have been provided no alternative means of voting. This >is not a partisan failure, this is a leadership failure." > >"After the last Florida voting fiasco, Jeb and George Bush promised the >American public that they would make every vote count," Jean continued. >"They have had two years to create a system that guaranteed full >participation in the democratic process to all people and, as we now know, >they have failed to deliver on their promise." > >Therefore, NGLTF is demanding that the Governor employ all available >communication devices and personnel at the state's disposal to let voters >know that voting hours have now been extended until 9:00 pm and to >encourage them to return to the polls. > >"Further, we are demanding full and immediate investigations by the >Governor's office and the U.S. Department of Justice into the failures of >the Florida election system so that the gay community and indeed all >Floridians will never again be denied that opportunity to vote and have >those votes counted," Jean concluded. > >-30- > > >The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force has worked to eliminate prejudice, >violence and injustice against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender >people at the local, state and national level since its inception in 1973. >As part of a broader social justice movement for freedom, justice and >equality, NGLTF is creating a world that respects and celebrates the >diversity of human expression and identity where all people may fully >participate in society. From moriah at preferred.com Fri Sep 13 15:08:49 2002 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:08:49 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] "standing up for dissent" Message-ID: <001301c25b59$236a9640$0500a8c0@oem> Dear f/Friends, The population of American dissenters has been remarked upon as slow to be heard from since 9-11-01. Also to be still laboring with sorting out opinions, or willingness to be conspicuous, in the aftermath of attack and a "war of self-defense." Here's some encouragement. ^o^ \_/ Mary Calhoun Foxfire Friends Meeting of the Holston Valley SAYMA ------------------------- "Art, not arms." -------------------------------- Printed from http://www.thenation.com © 2002 The Nation Company, L.P. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FEATURE STORY | September 23, 2002 Standing Up for Dissent by JOHN NICHOLS Every year Greensboro, North Carolina, holds a Fourth of July parade in which local organizations form the units. This year members of the Greensboro Peace Coalition decided--"after some hesitation," admits chairman Ed Whitfield--to join the line of march. They bought an ad in the local paper, printed leaflets and developed their own variation on this year's theme of "American Heroes": large posters of Americans, including Mark Twain, Albert Einstein and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., who have spoken out against the folly of war. Though members had been participating in vigils since last October, when the bombing of Afghanistan began, many expressed qualms about marching into the thick of their hometown's annual patriotic celebration. But fifty activists showed up on the Fourth and got the surprise of their political lives. Along the mile-and-a-half parade route through downtown Greensboro, they were greeted mostly with applause, and, at the end of their march, they were honored by parade organizers for "Best Interpretation of the Theme." Says Whitfield, "There is a real lesson in this. If you scratch the surface of the poll numbers about Bush and Ashcroft's overwhelming support, you get down to a lot of people with a lot of questions. Some of them are afraid that they are alone in what they are thinking. What it takes to get them excited and to get them involved is for them to see someone standing up so that they will know they are not alone." The post-September 11 experiences of the Greensboro Peace Coalition, Berea College's Patriots for Peace, the Arkansas Coalition for Peace and Justice, and dozens of other grassroots groups serve as a reminder that while dissenters have not always spoken in a single voice, they have had in common not just their unease with the bipartisan Washington consensus but the often inspiring experience that there are many Americans who share their discomfort. Take Jennifer Ellis of Peace Action Maine, who recalls how overwhelmed Down East activists felt after September 11. "But then we started to get calls from people saying, 'I don't know what your organization is, but it has the word "peace" in the title. What can I do?'" Some callers were already holding vigils, and her group started sending out weekly e-mails listing them. "We linked people up with local efforts to fight discrimination against Muslims, and we told people how to write members of Congress about civil liberties issues," she says. "Before long, all these people, in all these towns across Maine, were working together." As with anti-World War I activists who looked to Wisconsin Senator Bob La Follette, critics of McCarthyism who celebrated Maine's Margaret Chase Smith's statement of conscience or foes of the Vietnam War who were inspired by the anti-Gulf of Tonkin resolution votes of Oregon's Wayne Morse and Alaska's Ernest Gruening, post-September 11 dissenters found solace in the fact that at least a few members of Congress shared their qualms. Three days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Representative Barbara Lee, a California Democrat, cast the only vote against the resolution authorizing the use of force to respond. Lee's vote earned her death threats and pundit predictions that she was finished politically, but she won her March Democratic primary race with 85 percent of the vote. And the "Barbara Lee Speaks for Me" movement that started in her Oakland-based district has spread; in July several thousand people packed a Santa Cruz, California, movie theater to celebrate "Barbara Lee Day." Said Santa Cruz Mayor Christopher Krohn: "She's become a national moral leader in awakening the movement for justice, peace and a thorough re-examination of US foreign policy." Responded Lee: "It must not be unpatriotic to question a course of action. It must not be unpatriotic to raise doubts. I suggest to you it is just the opposite." Senator Russ Feingold, the Wisconsin Democrat who cast the only Senate vote against the USA Patriot Act's assault on civil liberties, still marvels at the standing ovations he receives when his vote is mentioned. "I thought this would be a difficult vote," says Feingold, who recently earned the best home-state approval ratings of his career. "What I didn't realize was that a lot of people are concerned about free speech and repression of liberties, even in a time of war. I didn't realize until I cast my vote that there was so much concern about whether it was appropriate, whether it was allowed, to dissent after September 11. I think that for a lot of people, my vote told them it was still appropriate to dissent." Some members who have challenged the Bush Administration have suffered politically--notably Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney, who lost an August Democratic primary. But most are secure in their seats, and one is even being boomed as a potential Democratic presidential contender. Representative Dennis Kucinich's February speech condemning the bombing of Afghan civilians and the repression of American civil liberties drew an overwhelmingly positive response that Kucinich, an Ohio Democrat, says is evidence of broad uncertainty about militarism abroad and economic and constitutional costs at home. Democratic Representative Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin led several House members in writing a letter in December questioning White House policies that emphasize bullets and badgering as opposed to diplomacy and development; and John Conyers of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, has kept the heat on the Justice Department regarding civil liberties--often with the support of Judiciary Committee chair James Sensenbrenner, a conservative Republican. Still, says Kucinich, "our constituents are perhaps more prepared than Congress for the debate that should be going on." Bill Keys, a school board member in Madison, Wisconsin, shares that view. Keys's October 2001 refusal to require the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in city schools earned three days of broadcast rebukes from radio personality Rush Limbaugh, physical threats and a movement to recall him from office. The recall drive fizzled before winter and, this spring, Keys was elected president of the board. "The strange thing is that once I became identified as this awful radical, people started coming up to me and saying, 'Don't you let them shut you up,'" recalls Keys. "If the last year taught us anything, it's this: Yes, of course, if you step out of the mainstream you will get called names and threatened. But you will also discover that a lot of Americans still recognize that dissenters are the real defenders of freedom." ................................... John Nichols, The Nation's Washington correspondent, has covered progressive politics and activism in the United States and abroad for more than a decade. Formerly a writer and editor for The Toledo Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette newspapers, he is now editorial page editor for The Capital Times in Madison, Wisconsin. He has, as well, covered electoral politics for The Progressive for a number of years. His articles have appeared in The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune and dozens of other newspapers. Nichols has covered four presidential elections in the United States, along with elections and political activism in Britain, Ireland, Israel, India, Palestine, El Salvador, Jamaica and South Africa. He has interviewed Bill Clinton, Al Gore, George Bush, Bill Bradley, John McCain and Patti Smith. His editorials on corporate responsibility have been honored by the Inland Press Association as the best in the country and his columns on presidential politics have been acclaimed by Women in Communications International as the best appearing in a daily newspaper. He is the author, with Bob McChesney, of It's the Media, Stupid (Seven Stories), which features introductions by Ralph Nader, Barbara Ehrenreich and Paul Wellstone, and Jews for Buchanan, on the 2000 presidential election, published in November 2001 by New Press. --------------------------------------- From moriah at preferred.com Fri Sep 13 16:01:09 2002 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:01:09 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] flag after 9-11 Message-ID: <011601c25b60$541efc20$0500a8c0@oem> Dear f/Friends, Ever since 9-11-01 I've been thinking about a flag design that I could "unite with;" a design finally made it into a graphics file in April '02 after the Oak Ridge Y-12 demonstration. My commemorative activity of 9-11-02 was constructing a pennant to the design. If by any chance the occasion comes along to use it or pass it on, feel free. (A .bmp file is a "bitmap" and can be opened by MSPaint, or a similar program.) 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What matter, we or they? ours or another's day, so the right word be said and life the sweeter made? Hail to the coming singers! Hail to the brave light-bringers! forward we reach and share all that they sing or dare. The airs of heaven blow o'er us, a glory shines before us of what mankind shall be– pure, generous, brave, and free. The love of God and neighbor, an equal band at labor, the richer life where beauty walks hand in hand with duty. We feel the earth move sunward, we join the great march onward, and take by faith, while living our freehold of thanksgiving! John Greenleaf Whittier ----------------------------------------- Nancy M. Whitt Professor of English Chair, Department of English Samford University Birmingham, AL 35229 Phone: 205-726-2458 Fax: 205-726-2112 E-mail: nmwhitt at samford.edu "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)" Walt Whitman From bright_crow at mindspring.com Thu Sep 19 21:27:14 2002 From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (Michael Austin Shell) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:27:14 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] FWD: "War with Iraq," by Peter Sederberg Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020919212642.009ef4f0@pop.mindspring.com> Dear Friends, Peter Sederberg is a member of Columbia (SC) Monthly Meeting (Quakers) and a professor at the University of South Carolina. Please read and share this essay. Blessed Be, Michael. <><><><><><><><><><><><><> From: Peter Sederberg Sent: Sep 16, 2002 0511 PM Subject: War with Iraq If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, then the road to war with Iraq is paved with myth. Myths, to be sure, often reflect deeply felt experiences, fears, and hopes, and, in this way, they express a kind of truth. We would do well, however, not to mistake the mask of myth, no matter how dramatic, for the face of reality. Right now a variety of myths infuse the rhetoric of war with Iraq and obscure our understanding and distort our decision making. Myth 1: A strike against Iraq would be a preemptive war. What the administration advocates is a preventive, not a preemptive, war. A preemptive strike is based on strong, indeed incontrovertible, evidence that your adversary is about to attack so you throw the first punch. No such evidence exists that Iraq is preparing to attack the United States or any of its neighbors. Such evidence did exist prior to Iraq¹s invasion of Iran in the 1980s and Kuwait in 1990. A preventive war, in contrast, is based on the hypothetical that since you face a hostile adversary, war is inevitable at some future time, so you make war now before your presumed enemy grows any stronger. Preemptive war is problematic enough on military, political, and moral terms; preventive war approaches insanity and immorality. War is, at best, a lesser evil. Initiating war when it might be avoided is militarily wasteful and ethically challenged. The more hypothetical the future possibility of war, the less justifiable it becomes to start one in the present. The Soviet Union represented a far greater threat to our survival than Iraq ever will, and some military and civilian leaders called for preventive war in the 1950s and a preemptive strike in the 1960s. Those advocating preventive war now might consider how following their predecessors' recommendation back then, in a far more serious situation than we currently confront, would have improved matters today. Myth 2: America has never been more vulnerable. Certainly the attack of 9/11 reminded Americans of their vulnerability. The proponents of preventive war play on these understandable anxieties to trumpet their cause and promote war against Iraq as the next step on the path to renewed security. They exploit our collective Alzheimer's. We were at our most vulnerable during the cold war, peaking with the Cuban Missile Crisis, when both the Soviet Union and the United States gazed at the gates of hell but drew back from the threshold. Myth 3: Containment and deterrence won't work. Historical experience certainly teaches us not to expect perfection from any human stratagem. Containment and deterrence are no exceptions; indeed, critics of both the left and right raised important criticisms about them during the Cold War. Nevertheless, we muddled through. Only a fool thinks we would have muddled through a preventive or preemptive nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. If you think containment is unpredictable and risky, check out the unintended, uncontrollable consequences of war. Indeed, the administration's willingness to risk a preventive war reflects their judgment that Saddam is not much of a risk. Bolstered by their short-term success in Afghanistan, they confidently enter upon this adventure. Ironically, their confidence that the consequences of this war will be easily borne, undermine their assertions of the seriousness of the threat. Myth 4: Saddam is a madman with nuclear weapons who must be stopped now. Saddam Hussein is not a madman. He is a rather rational risk taker, who sometimes, but not always, miscalculates. He has been deterred in the past, and we can expect he can be in the future. He has consistently pursued expanding his military capabilities including weapons of mass destruction. Such capabilities, though, do not in themselves constitute a threat. Capability must be matched by intention. If possession of weapons of mass destruction were the criterion for preventive war, then France, always a irritant to America, should rank higher on Bush's hit list, as they already possess hundreds of nuclear weapons and the capability of striking our country. Of course, administration hawks repeatedly point to compelling incidents of Saddam's ruthlessness. Closer inspection reveals that they undercut, rather than support, the administration's case. Saddam used poison gas in two different situations‹against attacking Iranian forces threatening his survival and against rebellious districts in his own country. Both of these, incidentally, were countenanced by the Republican administration at the time, because Iraq was a de facto ally opposed to what was deemed the greater threat from Iran. These war crimes share an important similarity: The victims could not effectively retaliate. Where his targets could retaliate, he proved much more cautious during the Gulf War. For example, he could have lobbed chemical weapons at Israel but did not, knowing such an attack would end Israeli restraint. Myth 5: The situation confronted is like that faced with Hitler in 1938. President Bush and others beating the drums of war summon up images of Europe in 1938, when a weak-kneed Neville Chamberlain and the hapless League of Nations failed to respond vigorously to Hitler's mounting aggressions. This historical comparison is ludicrous. Forgetting the obvious lack of similarity between Bush and Churchill or, for that matter, Hitler and Hussein, several substantive differences are compelling. Germany in 1938 was arguably the strongest country in Europe; the United States possesses overwhelming military superiority over every nation in the world. Germany was clearly a power on the rise; Iraq is a defeated country hemmed in by sanctions and military "no-fly" zones. Its government possesses little or no control over the south and the north of its nominal territory. Germany was building a true axis of evil, that was soon to include, albeit temporarily, Stalinist Russia; Bush's axis of evil has only a rhetorical existence. Politicians like Bush enjoy invoking the hackneyed aphorism about those who fail to remember history. More dangerous are those who remember history poorly or, for that matter, manipulate it cynically. We would do well to remember the other World War, where the contestants swaggered off to wage quick war and ended up in a mutual bloodletting that left all parties in a far worse position than when they began. Myth 6: The United States can easily win this war. This myth of victory appears literally true; our absolute military superiority could, in the phrase of some enthusiasts, turn Iraq into glass. The pivotal question involves whether we can win the war at an acceptable cost, in terms of military resources and/or moral standing in the world. We could have "won" in Vietnam; we just couldn't win with three-quarters of a million military personnel invested in the Southeast Asian theater. The deteriorating base of support for the war made it impossible for either the Johnson of the Nixon administration to invest more. Ultimately, both administrations reluctantly concluded the war could not be won at a cost Americans were prepared to pay. Curiously, hawkish predictions of how dominos would topple with the American retreat came true in a backward way. They toppled, all right, but in the opposite direction. Communist Vietnam invaded communist Cambodia and was, in turn, invaded by communist China. One communist state after another crumbled by 1990. The cavalier assumptions of an easy battle with few consequences in the wider world would be amusingly fatuous were they not taken seriously by the Bush's civilian warriors. We might ask whether the military command is quite so optimistic, but like the loyal soldiers they are trained to be, they will acquiesce to the civilian leadership and make the best of the situation. General Powell has reason to remember the consequences for the military of a similar situation in Vietnam. Thomas Friedman reminded us recently that no one seems to be discussing Saddam's war plans. The administration also remains vague about the situation we will face the day after our presumed victory. Rather we are entertained with briefings by the Administration's spokesperson, Rosie Scenario: Saddam's forces will collapse or go into open rebellion. No biological weapons will be hurled at our troops, against Saudi oil fields and terminals, or Israel. No serious outbreaks of anti-American violence will spread across the Islamic world. Terrorism against American will not significantly increase, and America's "war on terror" will not be hampered. We will quickly construct Islamic democracy in this bitterly divided country. America can neatly manage "nation-building" in both Iraq and Afghanistan. And, by the way, on to Teheran! Myth 7: We must act now, if not sooner. Iraq, we are repeatedly told, represents an immediate threat to its neighbors and to us. Congress and the UN must respond immediately. Of course, following the marketing advice of White House advisor, Andrew Card, the Administration waited until August was over before launching its "new product"‹war with Iraq. In justifying the urgency of the campaign, Bush repeats a litany of Saddam's outrages stretching back fifteen years. Bush repeatedly asks, "If not now, when?" How about after the election? Bush undermines the credibility of his argument for urgency by threatening recalcitrant Democrats with reprisals in the fall campaign if they delay deliberation on the war resolution. I would like to believe that the President has not sunk so low as to frivolously risk American and Iraqi lives merely to gain electoral advantage. I cannot believe otherwise, however, unless he requests, given the seriousness of the potential consequences of the decision, that Congress delay deliberation until after the election. Alternatively, he needs to present clear evidence that six weeks makes a difference. Myth 8: Congressional endorsement will legitimize the war. If the Bush administration gains Congressional approval for this adventure, then we, American citizens, become morally complicit in the actions that our government commits in our name as endorsed through our elected representatives. The Iraqi subjects, in ironic contrast, are victims of an oppressive tyranny. Indeed the Bush administration uses precisely this characterization as one of their justifications for war. The people of Iraq are, therefore, are not responsible for the actions of their government. If we indiscriminately kill them in our effort to oust Saddam, they are truly innocent victims. And we, the American citizens, will be complicit in their deaths through the actions of our elected representatives. We will not be able to claim the high moral ground when the anger of the Islamic world is directed against us. Therefore, all American have a great stake in this decision. We all need to be confident of the rightness of the actions of our government. We need to be assured that we are being told the truth; that we are not being manipulated into war; that the threat is immanent and serious; that all possible means short of war have been exhausted; that the true costs and presumed benefits have been honestly calculated. For when this war is waged, we will most certainly bear the costs of its failures and not only reap the benefits of its presumed success. Peter C. Sederberg, Professor Department of Government and International Studies University of South Carolina From listener at bellsouth.net Wed Sep 25 00:23:37 2002 From: listener at bellsouth.net (Kit Potter) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:23:37 -0500 Subject: [saymaListserv] old wisdom for a new day: two wolves Message-ID: <002d01c2644b$5220c7c0$6501a8c0@potters> An old Cherokee told his grandson about a fight that's going on inside him. He said it's between two wolves. One is evil: anger, fear, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.... The other is good: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith... The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf wins?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one I feed." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moriah at preferred.com Wed Sep 25 16:57:44 2002 From: moriah at preferred.com (Mary Calhoun) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:57:44 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] Message to Iraqi Nat'l Assembly Message-ID: <009801c26502$15ad15c0$0500a8c0@oem> Dear Representative Rahall, Thank you! -- thank you for your action in going to Iraq, and for the words you said there. I most earnestly hope that what you're attempting to start will bear fruit. I have taken the liberty of appending below your message to the Iraqi National Assembly, so that it can be read by other Friends (Quakers) on our list-server. ^o^ \_/ Mary Calhoun member, Foxfire Friends Meeting of the Holston Valley (Johnson City, TN) SAYMA (Southern Appalachian Yearly Meeting and Association, an affiliation of Friends meetings in Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi) ----------------------------- Message to the Iraqi National Assembly by REP. NICK RAHALL September 15, 2002 [Congressman Nick Rahall is a thirteen-term representative for West Virginia's Third District. He took the trip to Iraq in the company of former South Dakota Senator James Abourezk, as part of a delegation organized by the Institute for Public Accuracy.] http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=103 Copyright © 2002 The Nation I want to thank you for the traditional Iraqi hospitality that our delegation has received since coming to Baghdad. We are all aware of the grave crisis presently facing our two countries, the United States and Iraq. I am concerned about the effects that a new war would have on both our countries. For that reason I come as an advocate of peace through dialogue. Ours is a humanitarian mission. I come, not as the Secretary of State, and not as a weapons inspector, but as a member of Congress concerned with peace. Basically, I want America and Iraq to give peace a chance. A few days ago, the former head of the United Nations oil-for-food program, Denis Halliday, commented on the independent American delegation of which I am a part. Mr. Halliday is a former UN Assistant Secretary General. On September 12, he said: "Any dialogue between the US and Iraq is good and, with current and former lawmakers, it is even better." Mr. Halliday added: "Open-minded dialogue would prove war to be unnecessary." Instead of assuming that war must come, let us find ways to discover how to prove that war is unnecessary. A key to this terrible box that we're now locked in--is dialogue. I would also like to quote Edward Peck, an American diplomat who is a former chief of mission to Iraq. Mr. Peck pointed out: "You lose nothing when you talk, but the failure to do so in this case may cost us dear[ly]." Mr. Peck encouraged this delegation from the United States, which includes: former United States Senator James Abourezk; James Jennings, president of Conscience International; and Norman Solomon, executive director of the Institute for Public Accuracy. We are here to try and help open doors. Doors to genuine dialogue. It is time and, in my opinion, far past time that American and Iraqi officials talk to each other without threats. We want to open doors to possibilities that will protect life instead of maiming and killing. Doors that will give peace a chance. We've had far too much heated rhetoric between our two countries. Another war in this region would be greatly damaging. Any new war would be a war against public health, and also against the environment. Iraq is the cradle of civilization. We do not wish to see civilization strangled in its cradle. Iraq was once the Garden of Eden. Humanity must not turn the Garden of Eden into Hell. The evidence from the last war is quite compelling: § degradation of the infrastructure; § a wrecked economy; § shocking escalation of infant mortality and communicable disease, and many other negative health indicators for the entire population. We do not wish to see this devastation repeated. In this context, I am reminded of what Dwight Eisenhower, the great US general and President, once said: "Every gun and rocket that is fired, every warship launched, signifies, in a final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." Our delegation does not want to see a new war in Iraq. We do not subscribe to the "Clash of Civilizations" thesis which foresees nothing but war between the predominantly Islamic countries and the West. I hope that my colleagues in the United States Congress will perceive that peaceful dialogue is a more fruitful avenue than the awful road of perpetual warfare. I must say, however, that I believe the first step to restoring a relationship of mutual friendship and respect must be for Iraq to fully comply with United Nations mandates by allowing the return of weapons inspectors. That step would at least give pause to the crisis that threatens to engulf us. Then, over the next weeks and months, the participation of the international community may have an opportunity to succeed in defusing the crisis altogether. Perhaps this could be done by finding a combination of specific nations not directly involved in the dispute to serve as "honest brokers." Perhaps, for instance, Canada and South Africa. But time is now terribly short to reverse the momentum toward war. To make that reversal possible, Iraq must cooperate by giving UN weapons inspectors unfettered access. And in that process, "honest brokers" and the UN as an institution must proceed differently than UNSCOM did, so that next time there will be no abuses, and there will be no misuse of UN inspectors for espionage (as belatedly admitted by US officials themselves and authoritatively reported by the New York Times and other media outlets in early January of 1999). If this work proceeds properly, Iraq will be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Then the sanctions, which have done so much damage to your economy, infrastructure, and health can once and for all be lifted. The Middle East, and Iraq in particular, is a place of enduring cultural richness. It is the home of the world's oldest civilizations. Iraq has bequeathed to the world three great religious traditions Judaism, Christianity and Islam. This is our heritage, and the world's heritage. The Christian scriptures say "Blessed are the peacemakers." They do not say "Blessed are the warmongers." I happen to believe that the vast majority of the American people do not want to wage war, but would rather wage peace. Our delegation is here on behalf of peace. We believe that a new war is not only unnecessary, but wrong. I must again emphasize, however, that in my view and in the view of many of my colleagues, the way to avoid war and to secure peace is to allow UN inspectors into Iraq. The matter is urgent, and I therefore urge your government to implement all relevant Security Council resolutions without delay. Speaking personally, I will encourage my colleagues in the Congress to enter into dialogue with the Iraq National Assembly for the future benefit of both our nations. ---------------------- From bright_crow at mindspring.com Thu Sep 26 07:55:33 2002 From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (Michael Austin Shell) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:55:33 -0400 Subject: [saymaListserv] Fwd: Action on Iraq Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020926075330.009fc5f0@pop.mindspring.com> Dear Friends, This is forwarded from Mary Ellen McNish, the Executive Directory of AFSC. Please read it and consider acting upon it. Blessed Be, Michael. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Ellen McNish > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:22 PM > > To:xxx > > Subject: Update on Iraq > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > We have news today that Congress has scheduled a vote on authorizing > > military action against Iraq for next Friday, September 27, 2002. We are > > concentrating action on the Senate since the House of Representatives will > > be harder to effect results. We need to be prepared for a possibility > > that the vote in the Senate will be 100 for and 0 against. > > > > This letter will give you short term activities, medium term activities > > and long term activates that have emerged over the past 3 days. We ask > > that you spread as widely as possible the action steps we are > > recommending. > > > > Short Term---This is what we are asking you to do. > > > > Over the next week > > > > * Organize a personal visit to the district office of your state's two > > senators. Try to bring along other people like religious leaders or > > business leaders or just neighbors and friends. If you can't get a > > meeting at least call their office to register your position. You can get > > their district address and phone number from the fcnl.org website. > > * Call Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's office in Washington D. C. > > to register your position as well. His Washington Office number is > > 202-224-2321. > > > > Your message should be: > > > > You oppose the use of military force against Iraq. You support the > > diplomatic work in the United Nations to resolve the crisis and congress > > should too. You think weapons inspectors should be given a fair chance. > > Military force is not the solution---it will only make things worse in the > > United States, Iraq and the whole region that encompasses the Middle East. > > > > Other things happening next week. > > > > * Paul's letter to President Bush is written and will be sent > > tomorrow. I had a glitch in my computer so I can't seem to attach it. I > > will ask Francine Cheeks to send it to you tomorrow. > > * Paul's letters to Saddam Hussein, Kofi Annan and Tony Blair are in > > draft form and are being worked on. > > * We will have an AFSC Statement, talking points and sample letters > > completed by Monday...Tuesday at the very latest. You can access them on > > the afsc.org website. We will send the statement to the English language > > press in the Middle East and Europe. > > * I am meeting at 4 P. M. Monday with some of the heads of Quaker > > organizations to try to draft a joint statement. FWCC will only sign on > > if FUM does. We are working on it. > > * Jim Matlack is trying to get a place for me to testify at the > > hearings next week. Even if we can't get on the docket, I will go and try > > to meet with Arlen Specter and Rick Santorum, PA's two senators. > > * US Regional Directors have committed to getting personal visits to > > Senators in their district offices in at least 27 states. They have also > > committed to trying to place over 50 op-ed's based on the talking points > > and statements that will be available Monday. Commitments for more are > > still coming in. > > * This is an organizational mobilization so International Directors > > and other Department Directors are also trying to mobilize their > > constituencies as well as friends and family. > > * We will be dropping an emergency appeal on Tuesday to 77,000 donors, > > segmented by Senate District, asking each person to call their Senator > > with a similar message to the one above. The correct Washington phone > > number for their senator will be in the letter. Of course, we will also > > be asking them to give generously to this emergency appeal. > > > > Medium Term > > > > * Meetings are being held tomorrow to finalize the college newspaper > > ads. They will be place in three college newspapers in 5 regions. > > Regional Directors have committed to having staff/volunteers in place to > > host tables at these colleges to capture the students interested in > > getting involved. > > * We now have 15,000 signers of the peace pledge. The signers seem to > > be doubling each week. We have made an organizational commitment to get > > 100,000 signers by year end. > > > > Long Term > > > > * We had the first meeting of the Emergency Response Team planning the > > logistics for humanitarian assistance should we need to gear up quickly. > > The focus will be on providing hygiene kits which will be able to engage > > schools easily and can be used in other parts of the world if need be. > > This will possibly be in cooperation with Mennonite Central Committee. > > * We are preparing grant proposals for some foundations and possibly > > for Board funds as the specifics of these activities roll out over the > > next several months. > > > > Finally, over the next 10 days we will do everything we can. We have to > > be ready to face the fact that we will probably lose. We know this is > > only the first stage. Then we have to be prepared to move into the next > > stage---mobilization to oppose the war and preparation to bring > > humanitarian assistance to Iraq. Thank you for the wisdom and support you > > offered at the Board Meeting this week-end. It is knowing that we reach > > into the spritual depths of the Quaker values of peace and justice that > > gives us the courage to do this work yet again. > > > > Sincerely, Mary Ellen