From listener at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  1 21:36:30 2003
From: listener at bellsouth.net (Kit Potter)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:36:30 -0500
Subject: [saymaListserv] Kucinich compared with Dean information
Message-ID: <001901c3403a$5caedb70$6601a8c0@heyoka>


This is just for information. There is information on all the candidates'
responses to questions on the MoveOn website. I think that you would find
that some of the most thorough information you will get on these people
during the campaign unless you go to their websites. (Sometimes the
political websites don't indicate stands on issues either, whereas MoveOn
demanded their response to specific questions.)

It feels terribly "early" to be looking at this, but I am learning that now
is the time when our voices actually might make a difference, whereas later
it's all like steamrollers. That's my feeling, anyway!

Kit
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From listener at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  1 22:22:37 2003
From: listener at bellsouth.net (Kit Potter)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:22:37 -0500
Subject: [saymaListserv] ooops...a clarification
Message-ID: <002901c34040$ce391d40$6601a8c0@heyoka>

Dear Friends,

I apologize for perhaps starting something inappropriate for this listserve.
I sent the Kucinich vs. Dean thing only to get folks to start thinking about
the whole thing and to perhaps look at a website where they could get more
indepth information on all of the candidates. I don't want to start an email
discussion on the election stuff, or really to advocate strongly for or
against specific persons (even though it looks like it!) so much as to say
that the information is "out there" for us to make an informed decision. I
didn't see that available so easily in the past; at least in regards to the
presidential race.

I would personally welcome information on good, reliable sources of
information, but I apologize for sounding like I was promoting one person
over others at this stage and in this venue.

Sincerely,
Kit

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From scarlyle at main.nc.us  Sun Jul  6 14:35:18 2003
From: scarlyle at main.nc.us (Susan Carlyle)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:35:18 -0400
Subject: [saymaListserv] Re: Re: Monthly ECN Connections
References: <p05100300bb236d92ca5c@[192.168.1.101]>
Message-ID: <004201c343ed$5f085e80$c76dc0d1@qew>

Hi Janet. This is Susan. Kim's email address is kcarlyle at main.nc.us
I have forwarded your message to him, but you might want to correct your
address book to reflect the difference in our email addresses!
Susan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Minshall" <jhminshall at attbi.com>
To: <scarlyle at main.nc.us>
Cc: <sayma at kitenet.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:46 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Monthly ECN Connections


> Hi Kim, Thanks for your response.  I,too, thought this was more than
> just a message from one Friend to another and so I included all SAYMA
> Friends (as best the Kitenet list reflects all SAYMA Friends) in my
> reply and reprinted the whole  epistle that I was responding to.  In
> this message I have included the complete chain of messages so that
> anyone who is interested and who did not see the earlier ones can
> join fully in the discussion.
>
> I really appreciate your being so straightforward in your message.
> It highlights a concern I've had for awhile about middle class
> Friends assuming that they think like, and can say speak for, people
> living in LDCs (Less Developed Countries) to explain how they feel
> about working in a business developed by Americans or Western
> Europeans, and how that affects their culture and the rest of their
> lives.  In fact, the epistle just transfers the frustrations,
> problems and feelings of people working in the US to others who live
> in very different cultures and have very different concerns and
> values.
>
>    I have done some work, partly supported by SAYMA funds, twice in
> Africa -- once in 1986 and again later in 1988.  In both instances I
> was hoping to start, with the help and guidance of East African
> Friends, an economic development project which would express the
> concerns of US Friends. This was not a leading "out of the blue" but
> rather the dying wish for continuance of work begun by Marjorie Fox,
> a Philadelphia Friend. Marjorie sojourned with Atlanta Friends while
> in chemo-therapy for cancer at a local hospital. When it was clear
> that she was not winning her cancer battle, she let it be known that
> she fervently hoped the work she had done in East Africa would
> continue after she died.
>
> What I learned in East Africa was life-changing. It concerned
> cultural differences and how they literally blind us to cultures
> apart from our own. I think what I'm saying can be best expressed by
> the following exchange of letters the initial one written by a SAYMA
> Friend to Jack Powelson, an emeritus professor of Economics at the
> University of Colorado.  I serve on the Editorial Board for his free
> online newsletter "The Quaker Economist", and responded not knowing
> if he had the time to respond himself:
>
>
> Jack,
> the problem is that the "unfettered" competition is causing illness
> by pollution, global warming and is depleting sustainable resources.
> At some point the cost of illness and environmental change has to be
> figured in the buying and selling prices.  Also it is unfair to the
> entire globe to make products in places where there is no effective
> lobby to protect the environment - Regulation is probably the least
> way - but someone need so to pay for the dollars in health care and
> environmental degradation.
>
> In addition, from health statistics, we know that small farmers are
> healthier when then can sell their products.  Large factory farms
> undercut them and cause them to move to cities.  American farmers are
> subsidized by cheap fuel, wonderful roads, and generous benefits.
> You are right, it would be better if there was less regulation, but
> only when subsidies to favor rich countries were also eliminated.
>
>
>
> My response was:
>
> I don't know if Jack will answer your most recent message or not.
> Since you and I have nearly had this conversation several times at
> yearly meeting, I thought I'd give you my two cents worth.
>
> You're trying to change the system to what YOU think it should be
> whereas, if the decision were left to the people in developing
> countries the answers would be different.  You have worked in India
> and I in Africa.  We know, because we have seen it first hand, that
> huge wooded areas have been denuded by local people who are desperate
> for firewood to cook with and to burn for heat. The consciousness of
> the people I've spoken with in Africa is completely concentrated on
> immediate survival and they really do not give a hang about the
> environment or the expansion of the desert into previously arable
> land or the depletion of sustainable resources.
>
> But while they spend much of their time searching for anything that
> will burn, what they really want is the opportunity to work.  They
> don't care if American workers make twice as much for the work that's
> offered.  They realize to some extent that their country is without
> infrastructure and so the companies that relocate there will have to
> build and maintain roads, and a water supply and generators and a
> more functional communications system in order to have what they need
> to begin to produce.  The ordinary people just want the chance to
> begin earning and saving so that after they have repaired their
> houses and have bought clothes for their children, they can then work
> toward things like electrical wiring and indoor plumbing for
> themselves.  And the women, who now walk miles a day carrying water,
> want to save together to install a hand or electrical pump nearby.
>
> You can talk to them until you lose your voice and while they may say
> they understand and agree with you you will not really have changed
> their priorities until you change their economic situation. What
> economists have learned from studying economic history is that people
> need a higher standard of living and some economic security in order
> to care about larger, less immediate issues.  Once they have more,
> they begin to think about things like pollution, population control
> and even global warming. It happens mostly by itself.  We don't
> really have to convince them of anything.  What our multinational
> corporations can do and are doing is to give them the opportunity to
> work.
>
> Unless you recognize the change of consciousness which follows
> economic development, you'll never understand how to effectively
> change economic realities.  You cannot start at the end point (the
> environment and global warming).  You have to start closer to the
> beginning (economic development and jobs).
>
> There is an exceptionally good 18-page insert called A Survey of The
> Global Environment in The Economist magazine of July 6th to 12th
> which supports many of your concerns but enlarges the discussion to
> include comments and related issues from economists.
> Best Regards,  Janet
>
>
>
>
> From: "Kim Carlyle" <kcarlyle at main.nc.us>
> To: "Janet Minshall" <jhminshall at attbi.com>
> Cc: "Listserve SAYMA" <sayma at kitenet.net>
> Subject: Re: [saymaListserv] Re: Monthly ECN Connections
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:32:11 -0400
> X-Priority: 3
>
> Dear Janet (and SAYMA Friends),
>
> Thank you for your interest in and appreciation of the work of FCUN. I'm a
> bit puzzled about why the response was copied to our yearly meeting
> listserve, perhaps it was a mistake. In any event, it provides the
> opportunity to raise awareness among Friends, as is our intention in the
> closing of the epistle: "We ask monthly meetings and individual Friends to
> inform themselves as fully as possible about the proposed Free Trade Area
of
> the Americas, and to seek Divine Guidance in considering how to fulfill
our
> obligations, as citizens of the United States and the world, to promote
> peace, justice, and the restoration of the earth's ecological integrity."
>
> Your criticisms are justified. Many readers would interpret the statements
> as you did. Your comments will be helpful as we continue to seek truth on
> these issues. Please allow me, however, to explain the intent of these
> statements to which you have raised concerns.
>
> The FCUN epistle was a collaboration of many Friends in consultation with
> AFSC folks who are working on these issues. Regarding the first objection,
I
> consulted with the source of this particular phrasing who explained that
the
> reaction was "as if it said people are generally getting poorer in
monetary
> terms and in relation to the things money can buy. It does not say that.
It
> says 'the conditions of life are worsening.' This is a very much different
> consideration, and I think can be supported on many objective grounds. In
> human and social terms the conditions of life for people working, for
> example, long hours in low wage factory jobs in toxic environments are
> frequently worse than the conditions of subsistence village life they, or
> their parents, have left. The modernization of poverty is a relative
> consideration with respect to the environmental and social conditions in
> which people live. People who live in urban areas are frequently worse off
> even though they have more money than they were when they lived in a rural
> village. They are at a much greater comparative disadvantage with respect
to
> the economic world around them than are those who have not become
dependent
> on transnational capital. These may seem to some folks like rather subtle
> points, but an analysis that does not take them into account is not seeing
> the whole picture.
>
> "Further to the discussion, I chose the word "impoverished" precisely
> because is does not mean simply a lack of money. It means, as well,
> 'deprived of natural
> richness and strength.' It includes quality of life considerations and how
> people feel about the way things are going for them. Plenty of people,
even
> in the U.S., have money in their pocket but have a sense that the
conditions
> of life are worsening, that their own life, and the environment of life in
> general, is increasingly being 'deprived of natural richness and
strength.'
> Again, this may seem a little subtle, but it is an important reality."
>
> Regarding the second objection, perhaps the numbers from some statistical
> analyses do indicate that there are more people employed (and perhaps the
> exact phrasing in the epistle might have been better), but the point is
that
> while quantity may have increased, quality of employment has declined. Are
> temporary workers included in the statistic? Child laborers? Are the
workers
> properly compensated? The list of questions goes on. The real issues are
> employment security, income security, and adequate income.
>
> Again, from one of the authors: "The issue is not whether transnationals
> create jobs, but whether those jobs exist in a reasonably sustainable and
> supportive socioeconomic context. If they don't, then the statistics give
a
> false picture of the situation. The plant moves on, the jobs disappear,
> people left behind are worse off than before. The jobs may reappear
> elsewhere.  More plants get built  in the lowest wage areas and the
> employment figures keep looking positive. But human development and the
> development of human communities in healthy ecosystems is not at the heart
> of the process. Economists will say that's not what business is for."
>
> But, as Friends, perhaps we have a duty to help change the way business is
> done so that it not only includes the concepts of human betterment and
> ecological integrity, but makes them a priority.
>
> To explore these issues further, Quaker Eco-Witness will devote the next
> issue of "Quaker Eco-Bulletin" to international trade agreements. Friends
> can subscribe electronically to QEB by sending a message to QEW at FCUN.org.
> QEB is also distributed as an insert to "BeFriending Creation," FCUN's
> bi-monthly newsletter. Subscribe by sending a message to FCUN at FCUN.org.
Also
> if you would like to be included in the distribution of SAYMA's Ecological
> Concerns Network newsletter (the source of this exchange), "ECN
> Connections,"  please let me know.
>
> Thanks again, Janet (and SAYMA Friends).
>
> EarthPeace,
>
> Kim Carlyle
> SAYMA representative to FCUN
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janet Minshall" <jhminshall at attbi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:45 PM
> Subject: [saymaListserv] Re: Monthly ECN Connections
>
>
> >  ...There are two quotes which very much need correction:
> >  "...wealth increases for the already wealthy while conditions of life
> steadily
> >  worsen for many impoverished people worldwide."
> >
> >  "Although the agreements are promoted in terms of creating jobs
> >  and reducing poverty,there are now more unemployed and impoverished
> people."
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:45:22 -0400
> >To: "Susan Carlyle" <scarlyle at main.nc.us>
> >From: Janet Minshall <jhminshall at attbi.com>
> >Subject: Re: Monthly ECN Connections
> >Cc: sayma at kitenet.net
> >Bcc:
> >X-Attachments:
> >
> >Dear Susan Carlyle, I really appreciate the work you and Kim do on
> >behalf of the environment both in SAYMA and in FCUN.  I agree with
> >much of what is written by/for FCUN.  In response to the epistle
> >submitted by Kim I too am concerned that the media do not provide
> >full and accurate information.  I am more concerned, however, that
> >Friends are picking up inaccurate information from other sources and
> >passing it on as established fact.
> >
> >There are two quotes which very much need correction:
> >"...wealth increases for the already wealthy while conditions of life
steadily
> >worsen for many impoverished people worldwide."
> >
> >"Although the agreements are promoted in terms of creating jobs
> >and reducing poverty,there are now more unemployed and impoverished
people."
> >
> >
> >The two statements quoted above from the June ECN Connections in the
> >epistle from FCUN are not factual. Yes, "wealth increases for the
> >already wealthy", but "conditions of life do not steadily worsen for
> >many impoverished people."  In fact, according to United Nations
> >data, conditions of life and average incomes have steadily risen all
> >over the world for many, many years.
> >
> >Actually, the only places in the world where poverty is still
> >increasing are in remote areas of China and India. These are areas
> >where one aspect of globalization,moving jobs away from affluent
> >workers in the US to impoverished workers in the rest of the world,
> >has not yet reached. Everywhere that globalization has reached both
> >employment and incomes have increased, sometimes dramatically, for
> >the poor.
> >
> >I know this is contrary to the information you have been given, but
> >it is true.  Those who oppose globalization and the actions of
> >multinational corporations most aggressively are the US labor unions
> >which do not want US jobs and union dues, on which they depend
> >financially, to fall. Powerful labor unions, unfortunately, are the
> >source of much of the misinformation repeated as fact among Friends.
> >Similarly, some NGOs (Non Governmental Organizations) which serve
> >the poor realize that their mandate is fast disappearing as the poor
> >they serve are brought out of poverty.
> >
> >Please have someone in FCUN do the research from unbiased sources
> >such as the relevant committees of the United Nations and write
> >about it for Friends. It will show that what I am saying here is
> >true.    Sincerely, Janet Minshall
> >
> >
> >
> >>from ECN Connections- June 2003
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>An Epistle from Friends Committee on Unity with Nature on the FTAA
> >>To Friends Everywhere:
> >>
> >>Those of us who are U.S. citizens have witnessed with horror and shame
as
> >>our government has undermined international treaties and institutions,
used
> >>an endless "War on Terror" as a pretext for permanently enlarging its
> >>powers, embraced a doctrine of preemptive war, and invaded Iraq. We are
now
> >>faced with the prospect of another U.S. initiative, the proposed Free
Trade
> >>Area of the Americas (FTAA), that we believe will intensify social
injustice
> >>and institutional and ecological violence, and lead to more physical
> >>violence.
> >>Human activities damaging to the earth's ecosystems continue to expand,
and
> >>wealth increases for the already wealthy while conditions of life
steadily
> >>worsen for many impoverished people worldwide. U.S. government policies
and
> >>the international trade agreements they have promoted, instead of
remedying
> >>these inequities, seem to be intensifying them.
> >>In truth, these agreements have primarily promoted the productivity and
> >>profitability of large corporations by reducing legal constraints on
their
> >>activities. Although the agreements are promoted in terms of creating
jobs
> >>and reducing poverty, there are now more unemployed and impoverished
people.
> >>In addition, more land and resources have been diverted to the corporate
> >>industrial process, wealth and power are more concentrated, the
biosphere is
> >>more polluted, and the ability of governments to promote general welfare
has
> >>progressively weakened.
> >>Expanding international trade already taxes the environment by
increasing
> >>the use of fossil fuels and the rate at which fragile ecosystems are
> >>exploited. Treaties like the earlier NAFTA and the proposed FTAA
exacerbate
> >>this stress by granting "rights" to corporations which supercede and can
> >>even nullify national and local laws intended to protect people and the
> >>environment. The proposed FTAA would impose in this hemisphere
additional
> >>"rights" for global corporate and financial interests that the community
of
> >>nations has previously refused to grant through the World Trade
> >>Organization(WTO).
> >>Friends Committee on Unity with Nature is concerned that the U.S. media
do
> >>not provide full and accurate information about the effects of current
trade
> >>and investment policies on working people, on the impoverished, and on
local
> >>ecosystems in other nations and in our own. We are further concerned
that
> >>the secrecy of the FTAA negotiations has severely limited public
knowledge
> >>of and consultation on its process.
> >>On a finite planet, policies that give priority to assuring high returns
on
> >>the speculative financial investments of the already wealthy cannot lead
to
> >>either conservation or right sharing of the Earth's resources. Right
> >>sharing, conservation, and restoring the Earth's ecological integrity
must
> >>become the priorities of public policy.
> >>We believe this issue is as urgent as the new doctrine of preemptive
war,
> >>and one that Friends cannot in good conscience ignore. We are grateful
for
> >>the leadership of the American Friends Service Committee in the
Interfaith
> >>Working Group on International Trade and Investment and support the
> >>principles advanced in the statement, "An Interfaith Statement on
> >>International Trade and Investment."
> >>(see<http://www.mcc.org/us/globalization/partners/interfaith.html>)
> >>We ask monthly meetings and individual Friends to inform themselves as
fully
> >>as possible about the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas, and to
seek
> >>Divine Guidance in considering how to fulfill our obligations, as
citizens
> >>of the United States and the world, to promote peace, justice, and the
> >>restoration of the earth's ecological integrity.
> >>--submitted by Kim Carlyle



From kcarlyle at main.nc.us  Mon Jul  7 17:37:41 2003
From: kcarlyle at main.nc.us (Kim Carlyle)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:37:41 -0400
Subject: [saymaListserv] SAF submissions
Message-ID: <00f001c344cf$ff0d8120$a16dc0d1@qew>

Hello Friends,

The hour to submit items to SAF is upon us. We will welcome your news,
opinions, poetry, humor, autobiographies, recipes, and shopping lists at
SAFeditor at sayma.org. Please get them to us pronto. Thanks. --SAF eds.



From bonnipeg at charter.net  Tue Jul 15 00:16:22 2003
From: bonnipeg at charter.net (Peggy Bonnington)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:16:22 -0500
Subject: [saymaListserv] RE: sayma Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <20030708120003.D9CE5AA5F7@kitenet.net>
Message-ID: <DHEGJLFEKDIEANBBDCAEEEHBCFAA.bonnipeg@charter.net>

More specific, please? (exact deadline)

Peggy Bonnington 
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Subject: [saymaListserv] SAF submissions
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Hello Friends,

The hour to submit items to SAF is upon us. We will welcome your news,
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From kcarlyle at main.nc.us  Wed Jul 16 09:11:40 2003
From: kcarlyle at main.nc.us (Kim Carlyle)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:11:40 -0400
Subject: [saymaListserv] RE: sayma Digest, Vol 6, Issue 5
References: <DHEGJLFEKDIEANBBDCAEEEHBCFAA.bonnipeg@charter.net>
Message-ID: <007401c34b9b$ccdc2760$b96dc0d1@qew>

The requested final dates for submissions to SAF are the first days of
First, Fourth, Seventh, and Tenth months. In this context, "pronto" (below)
means a week ago. --SAF Eds.

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> More specific, please? (exact deadline)
>
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:37:41 -0400
> From: "Kim Carlyle" <kcarlyle at main.nc.us>
> Subject: [saymaListserv] SAF submissions
> To: "Listserve SAYMA" <sayma at kitenet.net>
> Message-ID: <00f001c344cf$ff0d8120$a16dc0d1 at qew>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> The hour to submit items to SAF is upon us. We will welcome your news,
> opinions, poetry, humor, autobiographies, recipes, and shopping lists at
> SAFeditor at sayma.org. Please get them to us pronto. Thanks. --SAF eds.
>




From perryt at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 20 20:49:36 2003
From: perryt at bellsouth.net (Perry Treadwell)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:49:36 -0700
Subject: [saymaListserv] Cheney's Energy Task Force
Message-ID: <3F1B38A0.1030709@bellsouth.net>

For those of you who missed NOW, the reference to Cheney's energy policy 
that Judicial Watch published on the 17th, the material finally released 
on the FOIA act revealed that the task force was investigating Iraqui 
oil fields. Material dated March 200l, before 9/11 and the subsiquent 
wars. Go to www.judicialwatch.org. Folks, it has always been about oil. 
Has anyone seen reports in any news papers? Even the NY Times missed the 
press release. Perry




From bright_crow at mindspring.com  Thu Jul 24 11:45:14 2003
From: bright_crow at mindspring.com (bright_crow at mindspring.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:45:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [saymaListserv] Fwd: Tax cuts: a bigger picture
Message-ID: <362780.1059061514993.JavaMail.nobody@wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net>

Dear Friends,

Please read and share this article.

Blessed Be,
Michael.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Recently, and within a brief time span, observers in many 
quarters have expressed their understanding that an unstated strategy behind the huge tax cuts at the federal level and in many states has been to bring city,county state and the US government to their financial knees, thereby making it unable to fund social programs -- including the administration of our public domain....which would include schools and libraries.

Privatization and Neo-Feudalism
By BILL WILLERS
July 14, 2003
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/WIL307B.html 



From tbeeson at xtn.net  Sat Jul 26 05:32:28 2003
From: tbeeson at xtn.net (tom beeson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:32:28 -0400
Subject: [saymaListserv] Yahoo! News - U.S. Sues Quaker Group Over Unpaid
	Taxes
Message-ID: <3F224AAC.2090901@xtn.net>



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=15&u=/ap/20030725/ap_on_re_us/war_tax_resistance_3 
<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=15&u=/ap/20030725/ap_on_re_us/war_tax_resistance_3>

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From ejohnson at berry.edu  Tue Jul 29 10:52:19 2003
From: ejohnson at berry.edu (Johnson, Ellen)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:52:19 -0400
Subject: [saymaListserv] FW: ACTION: August 16 - March for Safe Chem Weapons
	Disposal in Anniston Alabama!
Message-ID: <04075613166AF949913A8094A388272A0226F778@fsmail.ad.berry.edu>



-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Lawson [mailto:mlawson at coosa.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Fw: ACTION: August 16 - March for Safe Chem Weapons Disposal in
Anniston Alabama!
Importance: High



> ** Help Spread the Word:  No Nerve Gas Incineration! **
> 
> JOIN FAMILIES, WORKERS, VETERANS, RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND JUSTICE
> GROUPS AS WE DEMAND SAFE DISPOSAL OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN ANNISTON, 
> ALABAMA!
> 
> WHEN:  Saturday, August 16, 10 AM Central Time.
> 
> WHERE:  March from Anniston City Meeting Center on 17th and Noble St. 
> Downtown Anniston, Alabama.  Rally at Zinn Park.
> 
> WHY:  The Army plans to begin burning chemical weapons stored at the
> Anniston Army Depot, sometime very soon.  Burning chemical weapons 
> puts workers and hundreds of thousands of citizens at unnecessary 
> risk of chemical agent exposure!
> 
> Other communities' chemical weapons will be destroyed with safe,
> non-incineration technology, that can prevent uncontrolled release of 
> chemical agent.  But the Army and State of Alabama are not allowing 
> that same technology to be used in Anniston!
> 
> You can help stop the U.S. government from exposing its own citizens
> to chemical agents!  Come to Anniston on August 16 and demand justice 
> through safe disposal of our own weapons of mass destruction.
> 
> HOW TO GET THERE:  From I-20, (between Birmingham and Atlanta) take
> the Anniston/Oxford exit.  Head straight north into Anniston on 
> Quintard Ave.  Turn left on 17th and proceed to the Meeting Center)
> 
> 
> FOR MORE INFORMATION:  Contact Elizabeth Crowe at
> <elizabeth at cwwg.org> or call (859) 986-0868.
> -- 
> Elizabeth Crowe
> Chemical Weapons Working Group
> Non-Stockpile Chemical Weapons Citizens Coalition
> (859) 986-0868
> 
>