[saymaListserv] Does This Sound Familiar? (Relevant to the Testimony on Truth and the Proposed Testimony on Care of the Ear

Janet Minshall jhminshall at comcast.net
Tue May 3 23:01:43 EDT 2005


Dear Steve Livingston,  You are right that we 
share a mutual search for truth.  I am somewhat 
indisposed at the moment but have, nonetheless 
found factual info on Lomborg. He is presently 
serving as Executive Director of the Copenhagen 
Consensus, a group which has formed a consortium 
of concerned economists from around the world to 
sort through and come to agreement on appropriate 
and achievable responses to a whole range of 
world problems which need to be addressed.  His 
new book is  Global Crises, Global Solutions and 
is available in bookstores now.

From a biography of Lomborg:

From February 2002 to July 2004 Lomborg was 
director of Denmark's national Environmental 
Assessment Institute and in that capacity did 
additional research to support the data first 
presented in his book, The Skeptical 
Environmentalist, which was published in Europe 
in 2001, several years before it was available in 
the US.

Following below this message is part of the text 
of an 11-page article which appeared in 
Scientific American in 2002, before Lomborg's 
book was  available in the US.    The full 
article with Lomborg's response is on the 
Greenspirit site: www.greenspirit.com/lomborg. 
Please go look for yourself.

also see:

PDF] By rolling out four advocates of environmental pessimism to attack
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Bjorn Lomborg's brave book you have greatly 
increased my respect for that book. Not only does 
your reaction implicitly honour the book as a ...
www.lomborg.com/files/RidleySciAmerLomborg.pdf

Lomborg responds to critics in a detailed message 
titled "Errors and Corrections" (to the Skeptical 
Environmentalist) which can be found at:
www.lomborg.com/errors.htm.

Please read them yourself and see if you still wish to discredit his work.

		In Peace, Janet Minshall






**Greenspirit Publishes Lomborg's Reply - Media Release Feb. 25**

**Scientific American Threatens Greenspirit - Media Release March 6**

**London Observer Reports on Bjorn Lomborg's Dispute with Scientific American**

**Silence from Scientific American on Threat to 
Sue Greenspirit - Media Release April 7**

When Bjorn Lomborg published The Skeptical 
Environmentalist (Cambridge University Press - 
2001) he must not have been prepared for the 
onslaught of comment, both personal and 
professional, that has erupted in the popular and 
scientific press (see www.lomborg.com ). Whereas 
the popular media have generally reported 
positively on the 500-plus page analysis of the 
global environment, the scientific press in North 
America has been negative to the point of 
personal insult. It is very clear that extreme 
environmentalists are deeply threatened by the 
breath of fresh air Lomborg brings to the debate.

Among the most scathing of the attacks on Lomborg 
was an 11-page editorial in the January 2002 
edition of Scientific American. With the rather 
high-handed title "Science Defends itself Against 
the Skeptical Environmentalist" the editorial 
declared the book a "failure" and invited four 
prominent environmentalists to do their worst to 
discredit Lomborg and his analysis.

Scientific American did not give Lomborg any 
opportunity to respond to his critics, even 
though they gave him a copy of the editorial 
before it went to press. They said they would 
give Lomborg one page in a future edition to 
reply to 11 pages of full-on attack. Lomborg's 
response was to publish the text of the 
Scientific American article on his own website 
and to intersperse it with a detailed response to 
every point raised by his critics. Scientific 
American then threatened to sue Lomborg over 
copyright. In response to my complaint Scientific 
American wrote "This is an infringement of our 
copyright and interferes with our business of 
selling the article." Does Scientific American 
really think that they will lose readership 
because Lomborg has posted a response to a 
publication that is already off the newsstands? I 
believe they acted out of political motivation 
and are purposefully stifling Lomborg's efforts 
to defend himself. And I don't blame Lomborg for 
giving in to such a huge organization when 
threatened with legal action. (If you go to 
Lomborg's website www.lomborg.com and look under 
Critiques you will find he has removed the 
offending text, thus gutting the effectiveness of 
his response.)

I think we should defy Scientific American's 
blatant attempt to muzzle Lomborg. Anyone who 
reads his response to the Scientific American 
attack will have to agree that it is thoughtful 
and thorough. Here is a link to the entire 
response complete with Lomborg's comments.
LINK TO LOMBORG'S REPLY TO SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (.PDF Acrobat File)

I call on all scientists, organizations, and 
citizens to publish this document on their 
websites. I do not believe Scientific American 
can prevent this legitimate right of free speech. 
The entire editorial was an attack on Bjorn 
Lomborg. Surely he has a perfect right to defend 
himself on his own website. I am willing to bring 
this to the test. Please help with this effort. 
If you do not have a website then send the 
document to someone who does.

You can build a link to Lomborg's original 
article by referring to www.greenspirit.com or 
you can retrieve the Acrobat .pdf file from the 
Link to Lomborg's Reply above and publish the 
document directly on your site.

Please let me know by e-mail 
patrickmoore at greenspirit.com that you have 
published Lomborg's rebuttal and I will publish a 
list of websites and organizations that have 
joined in this effort to bring some critical 
thinking and intellectual rigor back into the 
debate about the environment.

I don't necessarily agree with every word of 
Lomborg's impressive book, but that is not the 
issue here. The environmental movement has become 
riddled with extremism, misinformation, misguided 
priorities and downright deception. It is 
wonderful that this dogmatic conceit is now being 
effectively challenged. Let's put some wind in 
Lomborg's sails!

Here is the entire text of Lomborg's response to 
the attack from Scientific American:

Bjørn Lomborg's comments to the 11-page critique 
in January 2002 Scientific American (SA), (in 
black)

Substantially finished December 31, 2001; latest 
update February 16, 2002, 16:47:45

[Background:
Recently I have received - through informal 
channels - the final proofs of an 11 page feature 
in Scientific American, all of it devoted to a 
trashing of my recent book The Skeptical 
Environmentalist, Cambridge University Press 2001 
(referred as SE in references).
By now, it appears that I will be able to present 
my views in a 1- page article in the May issue of 
Scientific American. This document is my chance 
to put my arguments to the readers of Scientific 
American with much greater detail and 
documentation.
References to various works are, unless otherwise 
noted, to the same sources as used in SE. The 
full bibliography can be downloaded at 
www.lomborg.org.]

Scientific American, p61-71, January 2002, (in red).
The text comes from the final draft and has been 
transferred from pdf into Word, meaning that 
occasionally italics or words may have been 
dropped. Most of the layout has been retained in 
headings, subheadings and usage of capital 
lettering. The first page (p61) is an editorial 
by editor-in-chief, John Rennie, the other ten 
pages flow in three columns into each other, with 
a sentence on each page in very large font for 
interest. These sentences will be pointed out 
below, but may come from an editorial decision. 
On the web, Scientific American describes the 
collection of essays thus:

(SA) Misleading Math about the Earth
ESSAYS BY STEPHEN SCHNEIDER, JOHN P. HOLDREN, JOHN BONGAARTS AND THOMAS LOVEJOY
The book The Skeptical Environmentalist uses 
statistics to dismiss warnings about peril for 
the planet. But the science suggests that it's 
the author who is out of touch with the facts.

Science defends itself against The Skeptical Environmentalist

(BL) This statement is potentially the most 
surprising of all - that the following critique 
should be science defending itself against my 
book. In a sense this encapsulates the bias of 
the following critiques. My book clearly makes a 
claim to science and to be factually based. I 
openly state the facts and my sources, and thus 
anybody is free to point out where these are 
faulty or incorrect and of course, such errors 
will then be posted on my web site. Thus, there 
is no need to defend science from my book - any 
possible defeat of science was never the issue. 
The discussion is whether the statements in my 
book are correct or not. The need to make it 
sound like a battle of science against my book 
seems entirely to misplace and bias the focus. 
Rather, the standpoint that might need to defend 
itself from my book would be the alarmist 
environmentalism, and that is perhaps the 
headline that would make more sense: Alarmist 
environmentalism defends itself against the 
Skeptical Environmentalist.

(SA) MISLEADING MATH about the EARTH

CRITICAL thinking and hard data are the 
cornerstones of all good science. Because 
environmental sciences are so keenly important to 
both our biological and economic survival-causes 
that are often seen to be in conflict-they 
deserve full scrutiny. With that in mind, the 
book The Skeptical Environmentalist (Cambridge 
University Press), by Bjørn Lomborg's reply to 
Scientific American January 2002 critique, 
16-Feb-02 16:47 2/32
Lomborg, a statistician and political scientist 
at the University of Aarhus in Denmark, should be 
a welcome audit. And yet it isn't. As its 
subtitle-Measuring the Real State of the World- 
indicates, Lomborg's intention was to reanalyze 
environmental data so that the public might make 
policy decisions based on the truest 
understanding of what science has determined. His 
conclusion, which he writes surprised even him, 
was that contrary to the gloomy predictions of 
degradation he calls "the litany," everything is 
getting better. Not that all is rosy, but the 
future for the environment is less dire than is 
supposed. Instead Lomborg accuses a pessimistic 
and dishonest cabal of environmental groups, 
institutions and the media of distorting 
scientists' actual findings. (A copy of the 
book's first chapter can be found at 
www.lomborg.org) The problem with Lomborg's 
conclusion is that the scientists themselves 
disavow it.
Many spoke to us at SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN about 
their frustration at what they described as 
Lomborg's misrepresentation of their fields. His 
seemingly dispassionate outsider's view, they 
told us, is often marred by an incomplete use of 
the data or a misunderstanding of the underlying 
science. Even where his statistical analyses are 
valid, his interpretations are frequently off the 
mark-literally not seeing the state of the 
forests for the number of the trees, for example. 
And it is hard not to be struck by Lomborg's 
presumption that he has seen into the heart of 
the science more faithfully than have 
investigators who have devoted their lives to it; 
it is equally curious that he finds the same 
contrarian good news lurking in every diverse 
area of environmental science.

(BL) Making it sound like all scientists disavow 
it is simply untrue. Many scientists, both in 
private and publicly (e.g. statements on the 
book) have praised the book. Below, you will see 
that none of the claims of "misrepresentation", 
"incomplete use of data" and "misunderstanding of 
the underlying science" are substantiated. The 
only specific claim presented here by the editor 
is that I am "literally not seeing the state of 
the forests for the number of the trees." This 
can only refer to the one paragraph on forests by 
Lovejoy (the only treatment of the matter in the 
following text) - and here the analysis is quite 
clear. I try to show that environmental movements 
will tell us we are at risk of loosing "the last 
remaining forests on earth" and that our time is 
"the eleventh hour for the world's forests" (WWF, 
quoted in SE:110). Yet, the longest data series 
actually tells us of very little change in the 
world forested area in the post-war period 
(SE:111). Moreover, the longest future scenarios 
from the UN climate panel (IPCC) show that in all 
likelihood the Earth will have even greater 
forest cover in 2100 than it has had since 1950 
(IPCC 2000b, SE:283). Here, exactly looking 
coolly at the longest data series gives us much 
better information than just going with the 
environmental myths and hype. Thus, in the 
editor's only concrete claim, he seems to be wide 
off the mark.
Pointing out that it seems questionable that I 
should know better than the people who've devoted 
their lives to particular areas, though clearly 
circumstantial, nevertheless looks like a 
powerful point. Yet, any person who has devoted 
his or her life to a single issue will naturally 
come to consider this area one of the most 
crucial issues, and any problem inside the area 
will likely be seen as necessary to solve.
And this is exactly my point - we should take the 
science of these people seriously, but we should 
not uncritically adopt their evaluation of the 
problems. There are a multitude of problems in 
any area of society - there are always things we 
would like to improve - but we only have a 
limited amount of resources. Thus, as a society 
we need to ask, whether the problems are getting 
bigger or smaller (are we going in the right 
direction), what can we do (much or marginal) and 
would this be the best use of our resources 
(other areas where we could do even more good). 
Such an appraisal does not come automatically 
from any single issue area. This is why we need 
to look, not only at the science of each area, 
but also to ask: 'so, all in all, how important a 
problem is your issue in the big scheme of 
things.' This is what I have attempted to do with 
The Skeptical Environmentalist.

(SA) We asked four leading experts to critique 
Lomborg's treatments of their areas-global 
warming, energy, population and biodiversity-so 
readers could understand why the book provokes so 
much disagreement. Lomborg's assessment that 
conditions on earth are generally improving for 
human welfare may hold some truth. The errors 
described here, however, show that in its purpose 
of describing the real state of the world, the 
book is a failure.
John Rennie, EDITOR IN CHIEF

(BL) Notice that these four experts have 
certainly not been chosen randomly - two of the 
four reviewers are actually directly criticized 
in my book. Lovejoy predicted back in 1980, that 
15-20 percent of all species on earth would have 
died by the year 2000 (1980:331, SE:252), a 
prediction which clearly did
not hold true and this is pointed out in the 
book. Holdren back in 1980 also clearly thought 
that many resources were running out. Along with 
Ehrlich and Holdren, he bet on this belief with 
Julian Simon:
"Frustrated with the incessant claims that the 
Earth would run out of oil, food and raw 
materials, the economist Julian Simon in 1980 
challenged the established beliefs with a bet. He 
offered to bet $10,000 that any given raw 
material - to be picked by his opponents - would 
have dropped in price at least one year later. 
The environmentalists Ehrlich, Harte and Holdren, 
all of
Stanford University, accepted the challenge, 
stating that "the lure of easy money can be 
irresistible." The environmentalists staked their 
bets on chromium, copper, nickel, tin and 
tungsten, and they picked a time frame of ten 
years. The bet was to be determined ten years 
later, assessing whether the real 
(inflation-adjusted) prices had gone up or down. 
In September 1990 not only had the total basket 
of raw materials but also each individual raw 
material dropped in price. Chromium had dropped 5 
percent, tin a whopping 74 percent. The 
doomsayers had lost.
Truth is they could not have won. Ehrlich and Co. 
would have lost no matter whether they had staked 
their money on petroleum, foodstuffs, sugar, 
coffee, cotton, wool, minerals or phosphates. 
They had all become cheaper." (SE:137). Since 
1990 the price of raw materials has declined 
another third (Economist industrial price index, 
SE:138).
The editor claims that the experts are chosen to 
show why the book is causing so much 
"disagreement," but given the choice of four 
experts who clearly feel the book is 
fundamentally wrong, it is unclear how the reader 
should be able to understand that there might be 
any value to my argument, and thus to the 
disagreement. The obvious lack of any concern for 
presenting a balanced review of my work calls 
into question the real purpose of this Scientific 
American feature. However, one of its 
contributors, Stephen Schneider, has on a former 
occasion made a suggestion that might throw some 
light on the curious imbalance of the Feature 
under consideration.
Schneider considers the "ethical double bind" 
that might occur to the scientist who is also 
concerned to contribute to a better world. As a 
scientist he focuses on truth. As a concerned 
citizen he must take an interest in political 
efficiency. Quite obviously, Schneider finds that 
this presents a delicate dilemma and he expresses 
the hope that one might be both honest and 
effective. However, as Schneider agonizes over 
this dilemma he does offer the following bit of 
unambiguous advice "So we have to offer up scary
scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, 
and make little mention of any doubts we might 
have."1 Could John Rennie have taken this as 
editorial advice? I don't know, but I feel that 
it would account for the tone and the lack of 
balance of the Feature considered as a whole. 
Unfortunately, this tone and lack of balance also 
seem to represent a disappointing and painful 
abandonment of the long proud tradition of 
enlightenment and rationality for which 
Scientific American has been respected in the 
past.
Finally, John Rennie tells us that, yes - 
Lomborg's fundamental assertion may hold "some 
truth," and yet, in the very next statement that 
the book is "a failure." This could seem like 
somewhat of a glaring contradiction and at least 
it relies heavily on the ability of the ensuing 
reviews to establish fundamental and serious 
errors in the argument - something they never 
manage to do.

1 "On the one hand, as scientists we are 
ethically bound to the scientific method, in 
effect promising to tell the truth, the whole 
truth, and nothing but - which means that we must 
include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, 
ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not 
just scientists but human beings as well. And 
like most people we'd like to see the world a 
better place, which in this context translates 
into our working to reduce the risk of 
potentially disastrous climatic change. To do 
that we need to get some broadbased support, to 
capture the public's imagination. That, of 
course, entails getting loads of media coverage. 
So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make 
simplified, dramatic statements, and make little 
mention of any doubts we might have. This 'double 
ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in 
cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has 
to decide what the right balance is between being 
effective and being honest. I hope that means 
being both." (Quoted in Discover, pp. 45-48, Oct. 
1989,
see also American Physical Society, APS News 
August/September 1996, 
http://cyclotron.aps.org/apsnews/0896/11592.html).

(SA) Stephen Schneider
GLOBAL WARMING: NEGLECTING THE COMPLEXITIES
For three decades, I have been debating 
alternative solutions for sustainable development 
with thousands of fellow scientists and policy 
analysts-exchanges carried out in myriad articles 
and formal meetings. Despite all that, I readily 
confess a lingering frustration: uncertainties so 
infuse the issue of climate change that it is 
still impossible to rule out either mild or 
catastrophic outcomes, let alone provide 
confident probabilities for all the claims and 
counterclaims made about environmental problems.
Even the most credible international assessment 
body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate 
Change (IPCC), has refused to attempt subjective 
probabilistic estimates of future temperatures. 
This has forced politicians to make their own 
guesses about the likelihood of various degrees 
of global warming. Will temperatures in 2100 
increase by 1.4 degrees Celsius or by 5.8? The 
difference means relatively adaptable changes or 
very damaging ones.
Against this background of frustration, I began 
increasingly to hear that a young Danish 
statistician in a political science department, 
Bjørn Lomborg, had applied his skills in 
statistics to better determine how serious 
environmental problems are. Of course, I was 
anxious to see this highly publicized 
contribution- The Skeptical Environmentalist: 
Measuring the Real State of the World. A 
"skeptical environmentalist" is certainly the 
best kind, I mused, because uncertainties are so 
endemic in these complex problems that suffer 
from missing data, incomplete theory and 
nonlinear interactions. But the "real state of 
the world"-that is a high bar to set, given the 
large range of plausible outcomes.
And who is Lomborg, I wondered, and why haven't I come across him at any of the
meetings where the usual suspects debate costs, 
benefits, extinction rates, carrying capacity or 
cloud feedback? I couldn't recall reading any 
scientific or policy contributions from him 
either. But there was this massive 515 page tome 
with a whopping 2,930 endnotes to wade through. 
On page xx of his preface, Lomborg admits, "I am 
not myself an expert as regards environmental 
problems"-truer words are not found in the rest 
of the book, as I'll soon illustrate. I will 
report primarily on the thick global warming 
chapter and its 600plus endnotes. That kind of 
deadweight of detail alone conjures at least the 
trappings of comprehensive and careful 
scholarship. So how does the reality of the text 
hold up to the pretense? I'm sure you can already 
guess, but let me give some examples to make 
clear what I learned by reading.

(BL) These paragraphs do not really discuss my 
book but establish several important rhetorical 
points that need to be mentioned. First is the 
John Rennie's incantation of "investigators who 
have devoted their lives" to the science: 
Schneider is the venerable scientist whereas I'm 
a nobody.
Second, he quotes my introduction where I state 
I'm not an expert as regards environmental 
problems. True, but the quote in full actually 
places this point in context:
"I have let experts review the chapters of this 
book, but I am not myself an expert as regards 
environmental problems. My aim has rather been to 
give a description of the approaches to the 
problems, as the experts themselves have 
presented them in relevant books and journals, 
and to examine the different subject-areas from 
such a perspective as allows us to evaluate their 
importance in the overall social prioritization.
The key idea is that we ought not to let the 
environmental organizations, business lobbyists 
or the media be alone in presenting truths and 
priorities. Rather, we should strive for a 
careful democratic check on the environmental 
debate, by knowing the real state of the world - 
having knowledge of the most important facts and 
connections in the essential areas of our world. 
It is my hope that this book will contribute to 
such an understanding." (pxx)
Of course, saying that truer words are not found 
in the rest of the book is clearly a rhetoric 
point, as much of what I say is simply quotes of 
the best available statistics from the official 
entities like the UN, OECD, World Bank, EU, US 
etc.
Third, Schneider lets us consider the argument 
that my many endnotes conjure at least trappings 
of academic argument. This seems an unreasonable 
critique, since it really makes it a lot easier 
for my critics to attempt to show exactly where I 
might be wrong. The argument also easily 
backfires, since Schneider does not supply any 
endnotes or other trappings of academic argument 
himself. Of course, Scientific American has 
limited space, but one could easily have imagined 
that SA would have put out an annotated version 
of the papers on their website. (That Schneider 
considers his SA article his best argument is 
evident from his other, shorter and fiercer 
article from http://www.gristmagazine.com/ 
grist/books/schneider121201.asp, where he 
specifically refers to his SA piece and the Pimm 
& Harvey Nature article for documentation. 
Incidentally, the Nature article is also almost 
devoid of documentation, see download on my 
website, www.lomborg.org.)

(SA) The climate chapter makes four basic arguments:
Climate science is very uncertain, but 
nonetheless the real state of the science is that 
the sensitivity of the climate to carbon dioxide 
will turn out to be at the low end of the IPCC 
uncertainty range-which is for a warming of 1.5 
to 4.5 degrees C if carbon dioxide were to double 
and be held fixed over time.
Emissions scenarios, according to the IPCC, fall 
into six "equally sound" alternative paths. These 
paths span a doubling in carbon dioxide 
concentrations in 2100 up to more than tripling 
and well beyond tripling in the 22nd century. 
Lomborg, however, dismisses all but the lowest of 
the scenarios: "Temperatures will increase much 
less than the maximum estimates from IPCC-it is 
likely that the temperature will be at or below 
the B1 estimate [the lowest emissions scenario] 
(less than 2° C in 2100) and the temperature will 
certainly not increase even further into the 
twenty-second century."
Cost-benefit calculations show that although the 
benefits of avoiding climate change
could be substantial ($5 trillion is the single 
figure Lomborg cites), this is not worth the cost 
to the economy of trying to constrain fossil fuel 
emissions (a $3trillion to $33trillion range he 
pulls from the economics literature). 
Asymmetrically, no range is given for the climate 
damages.
The Kyoto Protocol, which caps industrialized 
countries' output of greenhouse gases, is too 
expensive. It would reduce warming in 2100 by 
only a few tenths of a degree-"putting off the 
temperature increase just six years." This 
number, though, is based on a straw-man policy 
that nobody has seriously proposed: Lomborg 
extrapolates the Kyoto Protocol, which is 
applicable only up to 2012, as the world's sole 
climate policy for another nine decades.

(BL) Schneider deserves credit for making clear 
the main thrust of his criticism in these four 
points, though he clearly cannot bear just to 
state them without pejorative statements like 
"asymmetrically, no rangeŠ" and "straw-man 
policy", both of which are incorrect and will be 
dealt with below.

(SA) Before providing specifics of why I believe 
each of assertions is fatally flawed, I should 
say something about Lomborg's methods. First, 
most of his nearly 3,000 citations are to 
secondary literature and media articles. 
Moreover, even when cited, the peer-reviewed 
articles come elliptically from those studies 
that support his rosy view that only the low end 
of the uncertainty ranges will be plausible. IPCC 
authors, in contrast, were subjected to three 
rounds of review by hundreds of outside experts. 
They didn't have the luxury of reporting 
primarily from the part of the community that 
agrees with their individual views.

(BL) There is an important distinction between 
secondary sources and media articles. When 
discussing the entire state of the world, it 
would be incredibly inefficient not to use the 
vast collection of data and theory offered by 
secondary sources - this is exactly the reason 
for secondary literature and in general why it is 
possible to have specialization in science. 
However, almost all of these secondary sources 
are exactly the ones used by almost all 
discussants of the state of the world - the 
reports of the UN, (FAO, UNDP, UNEP, WHO etc.), 
IMF, the World Bank, OECD, WRI, Worldwatch 
Institute, EU, US government agencies etc. In the 
climate chapter, which Schneider discusses, 
references to the IPCC reports constitute about 
one-third of all 646 endnotes. Yet, the IPCC 
reports are clearly secondary sources. Surely, 
most people - including myself - would consider 
these reports the best available summary of our 
understanding of the climate science, which 
exactly was my argument for primarily using them 
as references:
"In the following I shall - unless otherwise 
stated - use the figures and computer models from 
the official reports of the UN climate panel, the 
IPCC. The IPCC's reports are the Lomborg's reply 
to Scientific American January 2002 critique, 
16-Feb-02 16:47 6/32 foundation for most public 
policy on climate change and the basis for most 
of the arguments put forth by the environmental 
organizations." (SE:259).
When I use media articles this is almost always 
when analyzing media discussion and illustrating 
what I believe to be a bias towards bad news or 
even incorrect information that permeates 
environmental news reporting. When discussing the 
IPCC temperature interval for 2100 of 1.4-5.8°C, 
I point out that:
"In the reporting from the major media, such as 
CNN, CBS, The Times, and Time, it was found that 
all used the high estimate of 5.8°C warming, and 
yet none mentioned the low estimate of 1.4°C." 
Naturally, this statement uses media articles as 
reference but is the use problematic? Should such 
a bias not be pointed out?
Likewise, I debunk U.S. News & World Report for 
telling its readers in February 2001 of how 
global warming would have lots of serious 
consequences. One of the most outrageous would be 
the US prediction: "By midcentury, the chic Art 
Deco hotels that now line Miami's South Beach 
could stand waterlogged and abandoned," despite 
IPCC estimates of a water rise of just 16cm (6in) 
by 2050 (SE:289-91). Is this use of media sources 
unreasonable?
Then, the critique of my use of sources continues 
with the charge that when I use peer-reviewed 
articles I do so primarily to support my rosy 
view of a low range but no further evidence of 
this is offered.

(SA) Second, it is ironic that in a popular book 
by a statistician one can't find a clear 
discussion of the distinction among different 
types of probabilities, such as frequentist and 
Bayesian (that is, "objective" and "subjective"). 
He uses the word "plausible" often, but, 
curiously for a statistician, he never attaches 
any probability to what is "plausible." The Third 
Assessment Report of the IPCC, on the other hand, 
explicitly confronted the need to quantify all 
confidence terms. Working Group I, for example, 
gave the term "likely" a 66 to 90 percent chance 
of occurring. Although the IPCC gives a wide 
range for most of its projections, Lomborg 
generally dismisses these ranges, focusing on the 
least serious outcomes. Not so much as one 
probability is offered for the chance of a 
dangerous outcome, yet he makes a firm assertion 
that climate "will certainly" not go beyond 2 
degrees C warming in the 22nd century-a 
conclusion at variance with the IPCC, other 
national climate assessments and most recent 
studies in the field of climate science.

(BL) It is correct that IPCC has quantified its 
'plausible', but IPCC themselves quite rightly 
made it clear what the limits were on the 
accuracy of their different types of probability: 
"the following words have been used where 
appropriate to indicate judgmental estimates of 
confidence: virtually certain (greater than 99% 
chance that a result is true); very likely 
(90-99% chance); likely (66-90% chance); medium 
likelihood (33-66% chance); unlikely (10-33% 
chance); very unlikely (1-10% chance); 
exceptionally unlikely (less than 1% chance)," 
(IPCC 2001d:2, italics added). Unless we are 
talking about events with very well-established 
probability distributions (which is the case for 
almost none of the important global warming 
issues) it really is just a judgment call whether 
something has a 89% or 91% chance of occurring - 
thus, had I made a similar endnote, defining the 
words of confidence, it might have appeared 
slightly more objective but not really made any 
addition to the facts at hand.
The second claim is much more serious: that I 
generally dismiss the IPCC ranges and focus on 
the least serious outcomes. Neglecting such 
ranges generally or without reason would, of 
course, be seriously misleading, which is why I 
don't do it in the book and which may explain why 
my critic offers no examples. Take two of the 
most important characteristics of global warming, 
sea level increases and temperature impacts on 
agriculture. For sea level increase I clearly 
write out the ranges from the main scenarios 
(SE:264) and for agriculture impact I clearly 
state the IPCC ranges (SE:288).
Next, it is claimed that I do not offer any 
probability of a dangerous outcome. This is 
plainly incorrect. In a whole section entitled 
"Fear of catastrophe" (SE: 315-7) I discuss the 
two major worries of dangerous outcomes, the 
sliding of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) 
and the shut-down of the thermohaline circulation 
(THC) that drives the Gulf Stream. Here I quote 
the 2001 IPCC report that a WAIS breakup is 
considered "very unlikely during the 21st 
century" (SE:315). Likewise, with respect to the 
THC, I write out that the 2001 "IPCC conclude 
that 'the current projections using climate 
models do not exhibit a complete shut down of the 
thermohaline circulation by 2100' but point out 
that it could completely, and possibly 
irreversibly, shut down 'if the change in 
radiative forcing is large enough and applied 
long enough'" (SE:316). In the endnote it is 
discussed how likely it is that the radiative 
forcing will be large enough and applied long 
enough for this shut-down to happen. Thus, for 
both the major dangerous outcomes I discuss the 
probability in detail, contrary to Schneider's 
claim. The final quote of "will certainly" only 
works because it has been taken out of context:
"This more realistic model holds several key 
points. First, it shows that global warming is 
not an ever worsening problem. In fact, under any 
reasonable scenario of technological change and 
without policy intervention, carbon emissions 
will not reach the levels of A1FI and they will 
decline towards the end of the century, as we 
move towards ever cheaper renewable energy 
sources. Second, temperatures will increase much 
less than the maximum estimates from IPCC - it is 
likely that the temperature will be at or below 
the B1 estimate (less than 2°C in 2100) and the 
temperature will certainly not increase even 
further into the twenty-second century. Third, Š" 
(SE:286, italics added). The quote "will 
certainly" comes from a model which is deemed 
"more realistic," but it is naturally only within 
this model that I can say that the temperature 
will be below 2°C and not keep increasing into 
the 22nd century. To make me say otherwise (that 
I should make "a firm assertion") is simply 
called misquoting.

(SA) Now let us look in more detail at the four 
major arguments he makes in this chapter.
Climate science. A typical example of Lomborg's method is his paraphrase of a
secondary source in reporting a 1989 Hadley 
Center paper in the journal Nature in which the 
researchers make modifications to their climate 
model: "The programmers then improved the cloud 
parameterizations in two places, and the model 
reacted by reducing its temperature estimate from 
5.2° C to 1.9° C." Had this been first-rate 
scholarship, Lomborg would have consulted the 
original article, in which the concluding 
sentence of the first paragraph presents the 
authors' caveat: "Note that although the revised 
cloud scheme is more detailed it is not 
necessarily more accurate than the less 
sophisticated scheme." In a similar vein, he 
cites Richard S. Lindzen's controversial 
stabilizing feedback, or "iris effect," as 
evidence that the IPCC climate sensitivity range 
should be reduced by a factor of almost three. He 
fails either to understand this mechanism or to 
tell us that it is based on only a few years of 
data in a small part of one ocean. Extrapolating 
this small sample of data to the entire globe is 
like extrapolating the strong destabilizing 
feedback over midcontinental landmasses as snow 
melts during the spring-such an inappropriate 
projection would likely increase estimates of 
climate sensitivity by a factor of several.

(BL) I am glad to have pointed out the typical 
way I refer to secondary sources - namely quote 
them accurately. The quote comes from Science 
magazine in 1997:
"A few years ago, a leading climate model - 
developed at the British Meteorological
Office's Hadley Center for Climate Prediction and 
Research, in Bracknell - predicted that an Earth 
with twice the preindustrial level of carbon 
dioxide would warm by a devastating 5.2 Degrees 
Celsius. Then Hadley Center modelers, led by John 
Mitchell, made two improvements to the model's 
clouds--how fast precipitation fell out of 
different cloud types and how sunlight and 
radiant heat interacted with clouds. The model's 
response to a carbon dioxide doubling dropped 
from 5.2 Celsius to a more modest 1.9 Celsius." 
(Kerr 1997a:1040).
However, the claim that I should have gone back 
to the original article seems suspect on several 
grounds. First, why would a major Science 
overview article not be a trustworthy source in 
general (and why not mention that the source is 
Science, rather than merely "a secondary 
source")? Second, it is of course possible that 
there are errors in secondary sources, though the 
risk is probably very small when using reputable 
sources like Science. The necessary question, 
though, is whether this is an important error? 
And if so, why has nobody (including my critic) 
corrected the article when it appeared in 
Science? Finally, is it really correct that the 
only relevant article to go back to is an article 
from 1989 (eight years earlier), where they point 
out the more detailed cloud scheme is "not 
necessarily more accurate"? Naturally, much 
research has been done since 1989 to establish 
which cloud scheme is the more accurate; in a 
1993 article Michell points out (together with C. 
A. Senior):
"The importance of the representation of cloud in 
a general circulation model is investigated by 
utilizing four different parameterization schemes 
for layer cloud in a low-resolution version of 
the general circulation model at the Hadley 
Centre for Climate Prediction and Research at the 
United Kingdom Meteorological Office. The 
performance of each version of the model in terms 
of cloud and radiation is assessed in relation to 
satellite data from the Earth Radiation Budget 
Experiment (ERBE). Schemes that include a 
prognostic cloud water variable show some 
improvement on those with relative 
humidity-dependent cloud, but all still Lomborg's 
reply to Scientific American January 2002 
critique, 16-Feb-02 16:47 8/32 show marked 
differences from the ERBE data. The sensitivity 
of each of the versions of the model to a 
doubling of atmospheric C02 is investigated. 
Midlevel and lower-level clouds decrease when 
cloud is dependent on relative humidity, and this 
constitutes a strong positive feedback. When 
interactive cloud water is included, however, 
this effect is almost entirely compensated for by 
a negative feedback from the change of phase of 
cloud water from ice to water. Additional 
negative feedbacks are found when interactive 
radiative properties of cloud are included and 
these lead to an overall negative cloud feedback. 
The global warming produced with the four models 
then ranges from 5.4° with a relative humidity 
scheme to 1.9°C with interactive cloud water and 
radiative properties. Improving the treatment of 
ice cloud based on observations increases the 
model's sensitivity slightly to 2.1°C. Using an 
energy balance model, it is estimated that the 
climate sensitivity using the relative humidity 
scheme along with the negative feedback from 
cloud radiative properties would be 2.8°C. Thus, 
2.8°- 2.1°C appears to be a better estimate of 
the range of equilibrium response to a doubling 
of C02." (Senior & Mitchell 1993, 
http://ams.allenpress.com/ams 
online/?request=getabstract&
issn=1520-0442&volume=006&issue=03&page=0393, italics added).
Here, they basically tell us that the model which 
produced the 1.9°C is better though not 
necessarily by a lot ("some improvement") and 
that the low-end estimates are "better 
estimates." Thus, the example of secondary source 
quotation seems curious at best or deliberately 
misleading at worst.
The claim against Lindzen seems unreasonable as 
pointed out in Lindzen's own letter to Scientific 
American, available at my web-site. Here Lindzen 
writes:
"One small point of personal interest to me 
illustrates the rather bizarre nature of these
attacks. Schneider claims that Lomborg cites a 
paper by me and colleagues (Lindzen, Chou and 
Hou, Does the Earth Have an Adaptive Infrared 
Iris?, Bulletin of the American Meteorological 
Society, 82, 2001) on what we refer to as the 
'iris effect' in order to reduce the IPCC claimed 
sensitivities by a factor of 3. What Lomborg 
does, is devote a quarter of a page to our paper 
in order to point out that it 'might pose a 
challenge' to the IPCC range. Schneider goes on 
to chide Lomborg for failing to present an 
allegedly fatal flaw in our argument: that it is 
simply the extrapolation of data from "a few 
years of data from a small part of one ocean."
He also presents an absurdly incomprehensible 
'analogy' to positive feedbacks from
midcontinental ice melts in spring. What 
Schneider really illustrates is that he 
completely misunderstands what we have done, 
which is to assess the effect of temperature on 
the behavior of cumulonimbus convection and its 
impact on large scale upper level cirrus clouds 
in the tropics. The primary requirement of such a 
study is that it deal with a period and a region 
which contain a large enough number of 
cumulonimbus towers; the results (which are 
normalized by a measure of cumulus activity) are 
then scalable to the entire tropics - a far cry 
from naive extrapolation . The period we dealt 
with (20 months in the paper, but now extended to 
4 years) and the area looked at (30 o S-30 o N, 
and 130 o E-170 o W) amply satisfied this 
criterion. As a logical test of this, we showed 
that the dependence of the ratio of cirrus area 
to convective activity remained robust even when 
we restricted ourselves to arbitrary small 
subsets in time and space of our full data set. 
We have also ascertained that existing climate 
GCMs fail to replicate the observations. As our 
paper amply stresses (and as Lomborg 
acknowledges), there remain uncertainties in our 
work, but Schneider's concern over 
'extrapolation' is not one of them.
Thus, at one fell swoop, Schneider misrepresents 
both the book he is attacking and the science 
that he is allegedly representing."

(SA) As a final example, he quotes a 
controversial hypothesis from Danish cloud 
physicists that solar magnetic events modulate 
cosmic rays and produce "a clear connection 
between global low-level cloud cover and incoming 
cosmic radiation." The Danish researchers use 
this hypothesis to support an alternative to 
carbon dioxide for explaining recent climate 
change. Lomborg fails to discuss- and I haven't 
seen it treated by the authors of that 
speculative theory either- what such purported 
changes to this cloud cover have done to the 
radiative balance of the earth. Increasing 
clouds, it has been well known since papers by 
Syukuro Manabe and Richard T. Wetherald in 1967 
and myself in 1972, can warm or cool the 
atmosphere depending on the height of the cloud 
tops, the reflectivity of the underlying surface, 
the season and the latitude. The reason the IPCC 
discounts this theory is that its advocates have 
not demonstrated any radiative forcing sufficient 
to match that of much more parsimonious theories, 
such as anthropogenic forcing.

Schneider calls this theory "an alternative to 
carbon dioxide for explaining recent climate 
change." However, neither the Danish cloud 
physicists nor I say that they are an 
alternative, but a supplementary explanation: 
"the sun as another important factor in the 
explication of increasing global temperatures" 
(SE:276, italics added). Moreover, I do point out 
both its still unsolved scientific problems but 
also its force and an attempt to show the 
relative importance of the two:
"A number of unanswered questions and unsolved 
scientific problems still remain in these 
theoretical relationships. But the point is that 
the sunspot theory has created a possible 
correlation in that a shorter sunspot cycle 
duration, such as the one we are experiencing 
now, means more intense solar activity, less 
cosmic radiation, fewer low-level clouds, and 
therefore higher temperatures. This theory also 
has the tremendous advantage, compared to the 
greenhouse theory, that it can explain the 
temperature changes from 1860 to 1950, which the 
rest of the climate scientists with a shrug of 
the shoulders have accredited to "natural 
variation."
Notice that the connection between temperature 
and the sunspot cycle seems to have deteriorated 
during the last 10-30 years, with temperatures 
outpacing sunspot activity in Figure 165. Most 
likely we are instead seeing an increasing 
signal, probably from greenhouse gases like CO2. 
Such a find exactly underscores that neither 
solar variation nor greenhouse gases can alone 
explain the entire temperature record. Rather, 
the fact that the emerging greenhouse gas signal 
only appears now seems to indicate once again 
that the estimated CO2 warming effect needs to be 
lowered. One such critical study finds that the 
solar hypothesis explains about 57 percent of the 
temperature deviations and that the data suggest 
a climate sensitivity of 1.7°C, a 33 percent 
reduction of the IPPC best estimate" (SE:277-8, 
italics added).
In conclusion, I do not accept the charge of 
having misconstrued climate science. If I am so 
wrong, one would expect that my critic should 
have had an easy time showing it, not having to 
rely on nitpicking, quoting out of context, and 
misrepresenting.


>
>Thanks for your reply, Janet. It seems to me 
>that we might be mutually engaged in a search to 
>find what is accurate, or true, and that we 
>benefit from sharing what we learn in our 
>communal effort to round out our perspective. 
>Therefore I encourage you to share what you have 
>found to be inaccurate about the biographies of 
>Lomborg that I have read, as well as the 
>endorsements you refer to that he has received 
>from other Greenpeace activists.
>
>It seems to me that Lomborg has offered some 
>wisdom on the matter of the so-called "Death" of 
>environmentalism, in his references to the great 
>progress that has been realized in making 
>business and industry more cosiderate of the 
>environment. Is this not precisely because the 
>environmental movement has brought stewardship 
>into the global consciousness, and conscience?
>
>After the elections last November, there was a 
>lot of talk in the "Liberal Media" about the 
>tremendous losses sustained by the Liberal 
>Element of our society: maps were drawn to 
>demonstrate how tiny was the support of the Blue 
>candidate, and the media declared that the 
>Majority Party had won a "mandate" based on 
>something called "moral values". Now a bit of 
>time has passed, and it is becoming more clear 
>just what that "mandate" was, and what the 
>"values" were that vaulted the current 
>leadership into power.
>
>In "The Death of Environmentalism", 
>Shellenberger and Nordhaus argue that 
>environmentalists have failed to energize the 
>public because their approach is fear-based 
>rather than visionary. If their observation is 
>accurate, it bodes ill for the current 
>anti-environmental regime, because their 
>approach is fear-based rather than visionary. 
>How else could they convince the people to act 
>against our own better interests and judgment to 
>support the most environmentally destructive 
>policy ever devised: the policy of war as a 
>diplomatic tool?
>
>If their observation is accurate, it bodes well 
>for the future of environmentalism as a 
>spiritual practice, inspiring people to rejoice 
>in their service to the earth and to their 
>fellow beings, to practice mindfulness of their 
>personal habits and consumption, and to never 
>shy away from naming what they see as harmful 
>out of fear that they may be perceived as 
>standing in the way of profit-making.
>
>Steve
>
>On 3 May 2005 at 18:58, Janet Minshall wrote:
>
>  > Dear Steve Livingston,  Sorry, I think you haven't even read an
>  > accurate biography of Lomborg or the several confirmations of his
>  > activism from other Greenpeace activists. I would expect
>  > environmentalists whose work he questions to retaliate.
>  >
>  > I am glad that you are open to market-based approaches to cleaning up
>  > the environment.  Would that others were so open.  Best Regards, Janet
>  > Minshall
>--
>Steve Livingston
>nc_stereoman at charter.net
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