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[Janet Minshall]

Hi Bill Reynold, Thanks for the info on SAYMA's ad hoc committee on 
Electronic Communications.  In the past few days Atlanta Meeting has 
been dealing with getting clear on what already exists as you and 
Mary Calhoun have done on this list.

Given that Quakers hold to "one standard of truth" regardless of the 
medium involved, I have pasted in (below your message) the discussion 
from members of the Atlanta Meeting list below.

I am also sending you separately copies of everything I have sent out 
about what occurred in my sayma listserve posting last week and some 
background (It is very brief and will not be a burden for either you 
or your committee to read. 
			Best Regards, Janet Minshall





>In a message dated 5/12/2005 8:34:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>moriah at preferred.com writes:
>
>I think the clerk agreed to my request, but I don't believe an 
>alternative procedure has been put in place.  Possibly the issue 
>became part of the charge to the Ad Hoc e-Communications Committee.
>
>This is to confirm that, yes, this issue is a major part of SAYMA's 
>Ad Hoc Committee on Electronic Communications - from the clerk of 
>the committee.  We are working on it and have made some progress 
>toward formulating proposals for procedures to deal with it.  Given 
>the busy lives of the ad hoc committee's members and the distances 
>between us, the work, as you would expect, is slow going. 
>Hopefully, we will arrive at a proposal to bring to Yearly Meeting 
>in June (can't be sure about that yet).
>
>Bill Reynolds


To: "Thompson, Jennifer" <JThompson2 at tandbergtv.com>
From: Janet  Minshall <jhminshall at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Fw: Re: [afmdiscussion] our list serve
Cc: afmdiscussion at yahoogroups.net
Bcc:
Attachments:
Thanks for the info, Jennifer. It sounds from your message and from 
Judy Lumb's that those lists exist but that the administrative 
assistant is not involved in them -- is that true Renda?  I have been 
away from Atlanta Meeting's office and electronic systems for twelve 
years and so am way out of date.  Janet



>There is a newsletter list, which has the minutes and newsletter via
>e-mail, and I believe there is an announcements list where the weekly
>announcements are listed. Only certain people can post to those lists,
>and the moderator or someone with sufficient rights has to approve the
>messages. But they are exclusive to those types of messages.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: afmdiscussion at yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:afmdiscussion at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Janet Minshall
>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:24 PM
>To: Joe Parko
>Cc: afmdiscussion at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [afmdiscussion] our list serve
>
>This Friend speaks my mind except that I think those who wish only to
>get announcements and minutes from the meeting should be able to do
>so, probably on a separate list. Janet
>
>
>>   > Janet,
>>>   I agree that our social concerns and ideas are intertwined but my
>>>   experience on the list has not supported this. Perhaps we just need
>to
>>>   call it the afmopenforumlist and let everything fly and quit
>worrying
>>>   about which messages fit into which categories.
>>>                                   Peace,
>>>                                    Joe
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: "Janet Minshall" <jhminshall at comcast.net>
>>>   To: <afmdiscussion at yahoogroups.com>
>>>   Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:23 PM
>>>   Subject: Fwd: Re: [afmdiscussion] our list serve
>>>
>>>
>>>>   >Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:21:10 -0400
>>>>>To: "Joe Parko" <parkoj at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>From: Janet  Minshall <jhminshall at comcast.net>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [afmdiscussion] our list serve
>>>>>Cc:
>>>>>Bcc:
>>>>>X-Attachments:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Joe, While I do appreciate the peacemaking effort, I think it is
>>>>>very hard to separate social concerns from ideas and concepts.  If
>>>>>the social concern is well-grounded, it has to be based on ideas and
>>>>>concepts.  In our case that would be ideas and concepts about how we
>>>>>practice being Friends, expecially in the areas of our social
>  >>>>concerns.  Best Regards,  Janet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Friends,
>>>>>>It seems to me that our Meeting is being divided by semantics when
>>>>>>it relates to our list serve. The so-called afmdiscussion list is
>>>>>>rarely used for discussion. What we need is an afmsocial
>>>>>>concernslist where people could post articles and events relating
>>>>>>to Quaker social concerns. We could keep the afmdiscussion list for
>>>>>>actual discussion of ideas and concepts. Then people would know
>>>>>>what they are signing up for. I think that the single afmdiscussion
>>>>>>list is trying to serve two very different purposes and thus the
>>>>>>confusion and conflict.
>>>>>>                                      Peace,
>>>>>>                                      Joe Parko


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