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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The following is a "bulletin" from the SAYMA Ad
Hoc Committee on Electronic Communications. It is not an invitation
to discuss the proposal on the SAYMA Listserv. Good Yearly Meeting order
is for it to be discussed within Meetings and Worship Groups for Meetings'
discernment process in preparation for the Yearly Meeting's discernment when it
meets next. (However, no punishments will occur if there is
discussion on the listserv.) All Meetings and WG's should have either a
contact person for the ad hoc committee or a Representative to the YM
Representative Meeting, or both jointly, who should shepherd the MMs', WGs'
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The proposal to form three SAYMA
listserv's, as quoted below was presented to the Representative
Meeting a month ago. There was some brief discussion of the proposal in the
Rep Meeting and Clerk Kristi announced that the committee is authorized to
distribute the proposal to MM's & WG's for feedback because the
committee's charge as approved a year ago says so. .
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<DIV>Bill Reynolds, Clerk</DIV>
<DIV>SAYMA Ad Hoc Committee on Electronic Communications</DIV>
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<DIV>SAYMA Ad Hoc Committee on Electronic Communications Report and Proposal to
9-10-05 Representative Meeting</DIV>
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<DIV>PREAMBLE to the PROPOSAL:<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Concerns that drive the proposal for three listservs, (not saying the
following covers all of the concerns): <BR> <BR> 1. For some
SAYMA Friends a relatively high volume of messages in their inboxes violates
their interest in living simply. Consequently it annoys them to be forced
to look at the subject lines in their inboxes and dispose of the entries.
These Friends have expressed to the committee a desire to receive only the bare
minimum of announcements specific to the life and work of the Yearly Meeting, -
to be able to choose what they receive in their inboxes.
<BR> 2. Some SAYMA Friends experience joy at the volume of notices
and discussions about issues of concern to Friends. These Friends have
expressed to the committee how much they enjoy inspiration, information and
edification in reading the posts from Friends with whom they might otherwise
have little or no contact - and getting information, thoughts and ideas that
they otherwise might not see or hear. <BR> 3. Some SAYMA
Friends have expressed an interest in reading and sending information, thoughts
and opinions on Friends concerns but they are "turned off" or offended by the
caustic or harsh "tone" by which some contributors sometimes write their
posts. They would prefer that, although divergent - even opposing -
opinions are expressed, such would be expressed in a F/friendly manner of
speech. Some feel that sometimes there has been "tone" of speech that
violates Friends values and testimonies and should not ever appear in a Friends'
sponsored publication. </DIV>
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<DIV>Suggesting three listserv's with the following proposed names: </DIV>
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<DIV> 1. SAYMA DISCUSSION LISTSERV</DIV>
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<DIV>GUIDELINES FOR CONTENT:<BR>This list is for the SAYMA community to discuss
general issues of concern to Quakers. (For further information about Friends'
concerns see Quaker.org). This list is especially for those who like
electronic back and forth discussion about views, opinions, etc. Please
compose your postings to this list to reflect the fundamental Quaker value that
'there is that of God in Everyone'. When responding to another post, respond to
that of God in the author or subject of that post. This means express your
perspective sincerely without passing judgement on the other's motives,
character, intelligence or integrity. Sometimes it is good to allow time to pass
for seasoning your thoughts before posting a response.</DIV>
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<DIV>ELDERING GUIDELINES:<BR>Form a group of four or five "elders" from those
who read the list regularly and appear to have skills in discernment. Ask
them to "step in" if a/some subscriber(s) post inappropriate material or
excessive numbers of posts. </DIV>
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<DIV>When someone posted something with inappropriate content or tone, elder(s)
are advised to email directly to the person who sent the message and suggest in
their future postings they use more tender language. Elders may, from time
to time, feel a sense that a remnder for what and how we speak on this listserv
needs to be sent to the whole listserv, either near the time when an offense has
occurred or later. Elders are advised to be mindful that some issues will
be resolved without their intervention. This is a good thing. If
listserv participants make a mistake occasionally, it does not necessarily have
to be pointed out to them. If an individual repeatedly violates the listserv
guidelines despite repeated eldering, the listserv elders should consult with
each other and reach unity before asking the listserv administrator to remove
him/her from the list.<BR> <BR>"ONE LINER" TO APPEAR AT THE BOTTOM OF
EVERY POST TO THIS LIST: <BR>"This list is for the SAYMA community to
discuss issues of concern to Quakers. (For further information about Friends'
concerns see Quaker.org)" </DIV>
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<DIV>WELCOME NOTICE TO EVERYONE WHEN THEY JOIN THIS LIST: <BR>This list is
especially for those who like electronic back and forth discussion about views,
opinions, etc. Please compose your postings to this list to reflect the
fundamental Quaker value that "there is that of God in Everyone." When
responding to another post, respond to that of God in the author or subject of
that post. This means express your perspective sincerely without passing
judgement on the other's motives, character, intelligence or integrity.
Sometimes it is good to allow time to pass for seasoning your thoughts before
posting a response.<BR> <BR> <BR>2. SAYMA
IMP^O^ Bulletin Service: </DIV>
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<DIV>This listserv is to continue the current IMP^O^ Bulletin
Service exactly as currently operated by the SAYMA Administrative
Assistant without any non-SAYMA announcements or any discussion. (The
latter two functions to be covered by the other two listservs.)
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<DIV><BR> 3. GENERAL INTEREST ANNOUNCEMNTS </DIV>
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<DIV>GUIDELINES FOR CONTENT OF GENERAL INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENTS LIST:
<BR>This list is for posting announcements about events, information, opinion
and information about action opportunities related to Friends' concerns.
(For further information about Friends' concerns see Quaker.org). To
include such things as: (a) events happening around SAYMA region or
nationally. (b) articles, publications, and websites of interest -
For example: "FCNL has posted an analysis of the Iraq war
budget....." (c) action opportunities such as writing congress, peace
demonstrations, etc. Appropriate responses to announcements on this
listserv are to be questions of clarification about details, additional planning
information, e.g, time, place, topic and contact information, etc. Any responses
other than these particular types of responses are to be posted on the SAYMA
DISCUSSION LISTSERV. </DIV>
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<DIV>GUIDELINES FOR "MONITORING" OF GENERAL INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENTS LIST:<BR>Form
a group of four or five "elders" from those who read the list regularly and
appear to have skills in discernment. Ask them to "step in" if a/some
subscriber(s) post inappropriate material or excessive numbers of posts.
One example of what to say: "If those who have been following this
conversation would like to continue, it seems more appropriate to move it to the
Discussion listserv." </DIV>
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<DIV>If a subscriber persists in deliberately posting inappropriate
material or posting excessive numbers of posts after being appropriately eldered
they are subject to removal from the list. </DIV>
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<DIV>WELCOME NOTICE TO EVERYONE WHEN THEY JOIN THIS LIST: <BR>This list is
for posting announcements about events, information, opinion and information
about action opportunities related to Friends' concerns. (For further
information about Friends' concerns see Quaker.org). Appropriate
responses to announcements on this listserv are to be questions of clarification
about details, additional planning info: time, place, topic and contact
information. Any responses other than these particular types of responses are to
be posted on the SAYMA DISCUSSION LISTSERV.
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