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Obama Hung in Effigy at Christian Collegeby Eugene Cho 09-24-2008=20

This is hard to read.  Hard to swallow.  Hard to understand =85 especially =
when it happens at a Christian university such as George Fox University in =
Newberg=2C Oregon (20 miles southwest of Portland).  From numerous respecte=
d accounts=2C I have only heard good things about the university=2C so I sh=
are this news not in any way to condemn the institution=2C the faculty=2C o=
r the students.
Early Tuesday morning (September 23)=2C an effigy in the likeness of Senato=
r Barack Obama was found hanging from a tree in front of one of the school =
buildings.  Truly disturbing.
While we ought to genuinely celebrate the historic elements of this preside=
ntial election year which includes Hillary Clinton=2C Barack Obama=2C and S=
arah Palin=2C this horrible news is another reminder that we have a long wa=
y to go. Is it simply because they are not like=93me=94 and thus=2C they mu=
st be different =85 and thus=2C the other =96 leading to the =93otherizing=
=94=2C in this case=2C of Obama?
Rural or urban=2C Christian or secular=2C male or female=2C young or old=2C=
 Republican or Democrat =85 we still have a long way to go.  We have work a=
head.
I have nothing insightful to write.  I simply want to implore you to be rem=
inded and revitalized by the one who reconciles us and invites us to the wo=
rk of reconciliation:

So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we onc=
e regarded Christ in this way=2C we do so no longer. Therefore=2C if anyone=
 is in Christ=2C the new creation has come: The old has gone=2C the new is =
here!  All this is from God=2C who reconciled us to himself through Christ =
and gave us the ministry of reconciliation=3B that God was reconciling the =
world to himself in Christ=2C not counting people=92s sins against them. An=
d he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.  We are therefore C=
hrist=92s ambassadors=2C as though God were making his appeal through us. W=
e implore you on Christ=92s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who =
had no sin to be sin for us=2C so that in him we might become the righteous=
ness of God.  (2 Corinthians 5:16-21)
Here=92s the article from Oregon Live:

A likeness of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama was found hanging in the George Fox Un=
iversity quad early Tuesday along with graffiti aimed at minority recipient=
s of a scholarship program=2C the university president told The Oregonian t=
his morning.
President Robin Baker discussed the incident this morning during the twice-=
weekly campus service=2C which was packed. With dozens of Act 6 students an=
d student leaders in front of the stage=2C he denounced the display and urg=
ed students to show that such a display has no place in Christian ideals.
=93We absolutely cannot hate those around us and say we love God=2C=94 he s=
aid. =93It is not possible.=94
=93Yesterday was not a good example of what it means to follow Jesus=2C=94 =
he said.
Quoting the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln=2C the pres=
ident said the university has long had difficulties recruiting nonwhite stu=
dents and his dream has been to help create a university that =93more broad=
ly represents the kingdom of God.=94
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out WalletPop for the latest news and information=2C tips and calculators.=
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love=2C<BR>
Maddy Clare<BR><BR><BR>

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Date: Fri=2C 26 Sep 2008 08:48:53 -0400<BR>From: susan at read-the-bible.org<B=
R>To: c.vmbra at verizon.net<BR>CC: sayma-discuss at kitenet.net<BR>Subject: Re: =
[Sayma-Discuss] ouch<BR><BR>
<META content=3D"Microsoft SafeHTML" name=3DGenerator>That would be a line =
from the Leonard Cohen song "Anthem" -- I often hum it=2C myself.<BR><A cla=
ss=3DEC_moz-txt-link-freetext href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBvcX=
5RMBwbk" target=3D_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBvcX5RMBwbk</A><B=
R><BR>Another Leonard Cohen tune I like=2C apropos in these troubled times:=
&nbsp=3B "Hallelujah"<BR><A class=3DEC_moz-txt-link-freetext href=3D"http:/=
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Drf36v0epfmI" target=3D_blank>http://www.youtube.=
com/watch?v=3Drf36v0epfmI</A><BR><BR>Susan Jeffers<BR>SAYMA lurker=2C membe=
r of Ann Arbor Friends Meeting=2C Lake Erie Yearly Meeting<BR>longtime Leon=
ard Cohen fan<BR><BR>Charles Schade wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:001e01c91fce$d4654360$2e01a8c0 at cpschade>
<DIV>Remember=2C there was a serious and ugly incident at Guilford a year o=
r two ago.&nbsp=3B We should not judge an institution by the actions of a m=
inority=2C but by how the institution collectively responds to the problem.=
&nbsp=3B Guilford rose to the occasion=2C and the report suggests George Fo=
x may do the same.&nbsp=3B We should hold the faculty and students at Georg=
e Fox in the Light.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Some years back there was a poem in Friends Journal that seems appropr=
iate to this situation.&nbsp=3B I am not sure I can quote it correctly=2C b=
ut it read something like this:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Forget you perfect offering</DIV>
<DIV>Ring the bells that still can ring</DIV>
<DIV>There's a crack=2C a crack in everything.</DIV>
<DIV>It's how the Light gets in.&nbsp=3B </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>(if anybody has a copy of the original=2C I would love to see it)</DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>cps</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3DQuakerkristi at aol.com href=3D"mailto:Quakerkris=
ti at aol.com">Quakerkristi at aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dsayma-discuss at kitenet.net href=3D"mailto:sayma-d=
iscuss at kitenet.net">sayma-discuss at kitenet.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday=2C September 25=2C 2008 3:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Sayma-Discuss] ouch</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>From Sojourner's daily email....Kristi</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.sojo.net/blog/godspolitics" target=3D_blank><IMG=
 alt=3D"God's Politics"></A>=20
<DIV>
<DIV>
<H2>Obama Hung in Effigy at Christian College</H2><SPAN>by <A title=3D"Post=
s by Eugene Cho" href=3D"http://www.sojo.net/blog/godspolitics/?author=3D26=
" target=3D_blank>Eugene Cho</A> </SPAN><SPAN>09-24-2008</SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV>
This is hard to read.&nbsp=3B Hard to swallow.&nbsp=3B Hard to understand =
=85 especially when it happens at&nbsp=3Ba Christian university such as <A =
title=3Dhttp://www.georgefox.edu/index.html href=3D"http://www.georgefox.ed=
u/index.html" target=3D_blank>George Fox University</A> in Newberg=2C Orego=
n (20 miles&nbsp=3Bsouthwest of Portland).&nbsp=3B From numerous respected =
accounts=2C I have only heard&nbsp=3Bgood things&nbsp=3Babout the universit=
y=2C&nbsp=3Bso I share this news not in any way to condemn the institution=
=2C the faculty=2C or the students.<BR>
Early Tuesday morning (September 23)=2C an effigy in the likeness of Senato=
r Barack Obama was found hanging from a tree in front of one of the school =
buildings.&nbsp=3B Truly disturbing.<BR>
While we ought to genuinely celebrate the historic elements of this preside=
ntial election year&nbsp=3Bwhich includes Hillary Clinton=2C Barack Obama=
=2C and Sarah Palin=2C this horrible news is another reminder that we have =
a long way to go. Is it simply because they are not like<EM>=93me=94</EM> a=
nd thus=2C they must be different =85 and thus=2C the other&nbsp=3B=96 <A t=
itle=3Dhttp://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/are-we-otherizing-obama-pa=
lin/ href=3D"http://eugenecho.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/are-we-otherizing-ob=
ama-palin/" target=3D_blank>leading to the =93otherizing=94</A>=2C in this =
case=2C of Obama?<BR>
Rural or urban=2C Christian or&nbsp=3Bsecular=2C male or female=2C young or=
 old=2C Republican or Democrat&nbsp=3B=85 we still have a long way to go.&n=
bsp=3B We have work ahead.<BR>
I have nothing insightful to write.&nbsp=3B I&nbsp=3Bsimply want&nbsp=3Bto =
implore you to be reminded and revitalized by the&nbsp=3Bone who reconciles=
 us and invites us to the work of reconciliation:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we onc=
e regarded Christ in this way=2C we do so no longer. Therefore=2C if anyone=
 is in Christ=2C the new creation has come: The old has gone=2C the new is =
here!&nbsp=3B All this is from God=2C who reconciled us to himself through =
Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation=3B&nbsp=3Bthat God was re=
conciling the world to himself in Christ=2C not counting people=92s sins ag=
ainst them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.&nbsp=
=3B We are therefore Christ=92s ambassadors=2C as though God were making hi=
s appeal through us. We implore you on Christ=92s behalf: Be reconciled to =
God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us=2C so that in him we migh=
t become the righteousness of God.&nbsp=3B (2 Corinthians 5:16-21)<BR></BLO=
CKQUOTE>
Here=92s the article from <A title=3Dhttp://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.s=
sf/2008/09/racial_incident_rattles_george.html href=3D"http://www.oregonliv=
e.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/racial_incident_rattles_george.html" target=3D=
_blank>Oregon Live</A>:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
A likeness of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama was found hanging in the <A title=3Dht=
tp://www.georgefox.edu/index.html href=3D"http://www.georgefox.edu/index.ht=
ml" target=3D_blank>George Fox University </A>quad early Tuesday along with=
 graffiti aimed at minority recipients of a scholarship program=2C the univ=
ersity president told The Oregonian this morning.<BR>
President Robin Baker discussed the incident this morning during the twice-=
weekly campus service=2C which was packed. With dozens of Act 6 students an=
d student leaders in front of the stage=2C he denounced the display and urg=
ed students to show that such a display has no place in Christian ideals.<B=
R>
=93We absolutely cannot hate those around us and say we love God=2C=94 he s=
aid. =93It is not possible.=94<BR>
=93Yesterday was not a good example of what it means to follow Jesus=2C=94 =
he said.<BR>
Quoting the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln=2C the pres=
ident said the university has long had difficulties recruiting nonwhite stu=
dents and his dream has been to help create a university that =93more broad=
ly represents the kingdom of God.=94<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>=
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