[saymaListserv] Re: [afmdiscussion] Fwd: [earthcare] Future Population Decline: What Are Our Responsibilities As Friends?

Daryl Bergquist earthsteward at urisp.net
Fri Sep 17 23:38:45 JEST 2004


I would echo Steve's amazement over the concept of desalinization 
peceptively lowering the level of the oceans.  First, though the 
technologies exist for desalinization of sea water, they require a lot 
of energy and energy is another resource we are using at increasingly 
unsustainable rates.  That is another discussion with lots of  
implications. Second I agree with Steve's comment about the relatively 
small amount of human use in relation to the ocean and the impossibility 
of lowering sea level thereby,  though I can't verify his figures.  But 
further than that, we do not consume (use up) water we simply make it 
polluted and salty or evaporate it and it all goes back into the water 
cycle eventually back into the ocean. Desalinization of sea water would 
not effect the level of the oceans other than the very tiny amount of 
water in the desalinization system at a given time and in the biomas of 
humans.  Upon reflection, perhaps that is what Steve was saying.

I do know that we can use fresh water way more efficiently than we do.  
I lived on  1/2 gallon per day of drinking and cooking water while 
sailing in the tropics. I use very much more than that now, even though 
I know what is possible.

Daryl Bergquist - Royal worship Group

Steve Livingston wrote:

>Hello Janet and Roy,
>Re: Chicken Little. I have often run into this argument Roy, especially when trying to express misgivings about plans that 
>look good in the short term but have no lasting power. This is especially true IMHO when calling into question the 
>consumption of resources that ought to be in the public domain but are increasingly being exhausted or privatized. To my 
>mind, clean water is the most fundamental and critical of said resources. I read not long ago of efforts to privatize Atlanta's 
>water system. Any insights on that experience from you or Janet? Or others reading this?
>Janet, I am quite amazed at the suggestion that drawing down water from the oceans might help balance the rising sea 
>levels from global warming. My understanding of the sheer denisty of the human population is that all of the people in the 
>developed countries would not fill up a box one kilometer on each side and two hundred meters high. How much water could 
>they possibly use up, never to return to the global ecosystem? How much impact could that possibly make on the earth's 
>oceans, with a surface area of 510 million square kilometers?
>On 17 Sep 2004 at 9:34, Janet Minshall wrote:
>>Dear Roy Taylor,  Thanks for your very good letter and change of
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