[saymaListserv] Quaker in Training

susan mcbride shmcbride at comcast.net
Mon Oct 2 10:13:14 JEST 2006

In part I see the issue of what is happening to our country as the fault of 
an arrogant few who are making decisions that alter certain rights that are 
said to be inalienable.  Recently I began preparation for a presentation I 
am to give on the culture of poverty.  What became clear (again) is that not 
everyone has the same rights we care to defend by way of peaceful means. 
There is a violence committed everyday to people in this country who have no 
voice.  Speaking only for myself, a question posed itself.  How is it I 
stand for rights that are not granted to everyone, especially when I see me 
as part of the problem?  Maybe someone who has walked this road longer than 
I can speak to this?  While working to help change the current situation, I 
am also prepared to be quiet and listen.

Susan McBride

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Livingston" <nc_stereoman at charter.net>
Cc: <sayma at kitenet.net>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [saymaListserv] Quaker in Training

With permission I am posting this exchange between myself and Kit
Potter, in part as an inquiry to stimulate further reflection and
conversation among Friends.

Kathryn Potter wrote:

Thanks, Steve. We do need to remember this perspective internationally.

But the biggest concern I have at the moment is the eroding of our rights at 
home, and the lack of national integrity of ideal with action - in full view 
of citizens and international community alike.

We've forgotten our history! Many of the European settlers of the Americas 
came here to escape the sort of government behaviors we are now allowing.


Steve Livingston wrote:

That "lack of national integrity" part is particularly destructive, in
my opinion. I believe the most important issue we have before us as a
nation right now is: Campaign Reform. Until we manage to elect a
government that will serve the best interests of the nation rather than
the bests interests of their owners, no other issue can be resolved in
an appropriate manner.


Kathryn Potter wrote:

I agree with your choice of primary issue! I wonder if the US electorate can
muster the will and the focus to make this the central reform action. I feel
skeptical, but would work on it!


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